Vaal Sand Thu 09/01/2014

hibernia Wrote:

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> If she doesn`t show any improvement today its a
> good home she should be heading to ,not Flamingo


do you really think i would bought her if she doesnt show she is well on the training track and been double claimed....go check the form and the races she ran before against her own sex on sand before talking this bullshit "she need a good home not flamingo"
who are you to judge what is good and what not...???????
really fucking annoying "opinion"

Strydom Dbl R4 and R7 , that like two Bankers in the pick6.

Thunderstorms predicted - so we may not finish the meeting - in terms of Dare to be Grand (if they get to race) - should not have been at those big odds - not a lot between her and Olympic Spring on their runs behind Beautiful Dawn - so even 12/1 not bad odds if compared to the 7/2 about OS :S

thank goodness for frodo that know what his talking about.....
well spotted and odds still good value at 12/1

Zietsman Oosthuizen Wrote:

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> thank goodness for frodo that know what his
> talking about.....
> well spotted and odds still good value at 12/1


still 40/1 with marshalls took the 5.2/1 place

Well done Ziets I hope your horses do well for you mate!!

Winning Form & Magic Tips Best Bets - Vaal Sand

3-15 SIROCCO BAY Naude F

R1 Poor opener which immediately takes me to Lady Of Kildare who has a decent sand sire and won't need to be special to win. Deraqua, based only on her last run, could take advantage if LOK does not take to the surface. Simply based on trainer/jockey combination, I'll chance Eyona for the trifecta.

R2 Bridge Too Far is likely to be in the shake-up but is very short in the market for me. Matadora was considered as a semi-idiot just based on the weakness of the field but has been quite heavily supported. There is nothing in the breeding which suggests to me she is a definite taker to the surface so I'll go with Striker on Latino Ice, in this field her third to Julie Doolittle, when reported coughing, on her only sand run looks good enough to see her involved in the finish and hopefully PS can get a little more from her.

R3 Lerena is up on Tornado Twister who has finished in silver in all 3 of his c/d runs and has already found some market support but he comes off a 20 week rest and that must raise a question mark. Stablemate Sirocco Bay is not completely without a chance and Royal Stock may not be too far off at big odds. Jimmijagga makes his sand debut and the breeding suggests he could go well on the surface for the Pettigrew/MVR combination. The final choice though goes to Global Talk who has an 0-3-2 record in 8 c/d runs, he has finished behind TT a couple of times but has generally been in decent form recently and may have a fitness edge here.

R4 Could be a decent race but very tough with more than a few in with a shout. She's A Stunner has obvious chances and there is a little in the breeding to suggest she will take to the surface. With Striker up for Tarry then the indication is she will do so. Short enough in the market though for a sand first timer for me to look elsewhere. Alcanina has a decent sand sire and if taking to the surface could find the winner's box. There is some conflicting form in those with sand experience. Captain Call seemed to recapture some form lto and Cante Libre seems to be heading in the other direction. Shiver n Shake has a 1-2-0 in 4 c/d runs and goes off a light weight and Geolina has shown enough on the sand, and is on 3rd run after a rest, to warrant a little idiot e/w interest. Sing The Blues has not won over the minimum trip in 11 attempts but has some decent sand form and has two silvers in three c/d runs so could finally get in the winner's box at the d. At the odds, I'll (e/w) chance that she does so.

R5 Another tough one with plenty chances. In the end, I decided to take a chance that Vulcan will be able to shoulder the weight. Has to be a chancy option though. Goldstream and Anger could be the ones to profit if it does indeed prove too great a burden to shoulder.

R6 Plenty I think can be discounted relatively quickly but I still can't say I have huge confidence in my selection... Secret Pledge. He made a decent sand debut from the worst draw over 1200 and that followed a 20 week rest. With Striker booked for Lucky he seems the sensible option. The concern for me is the minimum trip possibly being on the sharp side. The most likely to threaten for speed could be stablemate Wunout with Gunter up but this one returns from a 30 week break. Eagke face does not seem to be in top form but would go close if returning to his best. Tacit Tiger is another who might find this trip a little on the sharp side but with plenty of questions in the race, could well be involved in the finish. A complete shock would be annoying but not altogether unexpected.

R7 Crystal's Revenge x Inventive Girl x Dover Beach. Not discussing but see CR as decent e/w value!

R8 Mauri Blue has to come into consideration but in the end I tentatively went with Ajuba to beat Flaming Forge. Tilman worth an idiot place/e/w look at the price.

R9 Changed my mind : on this one and going with Tipsy Trip (will double with backed first timer in the 2nd), though THH's words about winners on the Vaal sand rarely winning next time out is ringing loudly in my ears. Olympic Spring has seemingly had a lot of "issues" in races but was very close to being the selection. Dare To Be Grand was a big price but I don't see him as value anymore, too inconsistent for me unless he has been "prepared" for this race. Summer Sari has a fair chance and a small complete idiot e/w will be done on run Girl Wild who has a little in the breeding to suggest the sand might bring about an improved showing.

A few 1000 sprints so watch for any possible draw bias down the straight in R2.

Be(s)t of luck to all (tu)

Nice write up E. I also like like a bit of Royal Stock EW in the 3rd. (tu)

Some observations /fancies

Race 2 - Bridge too far ( this is already nominated for a MR64 on the 16th ! ) Although Matchett 1st timer is attracting money.

Race 3 - Tornado twister

Race 4 - Alcanina

Race 5 - Mr Alfonso

Race 7 - Inventive Girl

Race 8 - Flaming Forge

Race 9 - 1 and 5

shrek Wrote:

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> Nice write up E. I also like like a bit of Royal
> Stock EW in the 3rd. (tu)


Yes good stuff Englander - I'm now getting worried about Royal Stock, including Pirhobeta, that now make 4 of us that likes the look of this one - best over the 1000; I took 33's yesterday and 11/2 first 3 today - very good value I think, especially for a place (tu)