The Vaal Tuesday 18/2/14

Discuss the card below....

Race 1 - 12h35
6 MILLENIUM REIGN [Half Claim] 28/10
13 TRUST THE PINK # [Full Claim] [Full Claim] 7/2


Race 4 - 14h20

14 MIND GAMES # [Full Claim] 12/1

Indira to win!!!

One To Follow Wrote:

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> Indira to win!!
I like it as well , the only danger Tommy Gun. My gut feeling is tellling me its going to run a much better race !!

Poor card from a punting perspective imo, will be having a patent and a rest day me thinks

gnieman Wrote:

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> > Indira to win!!
> I like it as well , the only danger Tommy Gun. My
> gut feeling is tellling me its going to run a much
> better race !!

Exactly my point, if I were to have a punt in that race it would be Trip Tease... one race, three different choices, can't dutch them at the prices... and wouldn't completely surprise me if none of the three won. Not a betting race for me.

Beware that draw too... outside track

Englander Wrote:

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> > > Indira to win!!
> > I like it as well , the only danger Tommy Gun.
> My
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> much
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> Exactly my point, if I were to have a punt in that
> race it would be Trip Tease... one race, three
> different choices, can't dutch them at the
> prices... and wouldn't completely surprise me if
> none of the three won. Not a betting race for me.
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> Beware that draw too... outside track

Englander, what you say is true. The thing that worries me is that fast time at the Vaal last year 12/2/2013 when winning that race with 56,36 and a nice run against Willow Magic( a superstar in the making) Indira second behind promising Mary Stuart also a big event. Trip Tease is lightly raced but not tested. I have no doubt that he is talentfulll !!! Can Louis Goosen maybe tell us what he thinks about this. Louis if you please can fill us in about your thoughts!!
Pretty please!!

That is what excite me the most of the ABC-The high level of expertise between Clanners and there opinions. No one sees the same thing in the same light. Please join our discussion because this is a very important race for future purposes!!

Gnieman, I love times but times on the Vaal course(s) are very dangerous, you have to have kept a record of whether it was the inside track or the outside track, where the horse's were drawn and what the draw advantage was on that particular day. Which I don't cos I am too lazy lol

If you use the Winning Form like I do then you are almost certainly going at least half blind because despite receiving assurances two years ago they still don't differentiate between the inside and the outside track, it is all one course to them. I like their product but on this they are completely blank blank blank (not very pleasant words ) useless.

But... wasn't the race you refer to at Turffontein anyway? <

Englander Wrote:

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> Gnieman, I love times but times on the Vaal
> course(s) are very dangerous, you have to have
> kept a record of whether it was the inside track
> or the outside track, where the horse's were drawn
> and what the draw advantage was on that particular
> day. Which I don't cos I am too lazy lol
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> If you use the Winning Form like I do then you are
> almost certainly going at least half blind because
> despite receiving assurances two years ago they
> still don't differentiate between the inside and
> the outside track, it is all one course to them. I
> like their product but on this they are completely
> blank blank blank (not very pleasant words )
> useless.
>
> But... wasn't the race you refer to at Turffontein
> anyway? <
Sure it was on Turffontein. The Vaal course runs quicker than Turffie. But let's look to this cenario from a other angle. Indira finished at that same track( Turffontien) with 56.90 with 60 kilograms on her back. Great achievement !! Tommy Gun run at 56.36 with only 55 on his back. Indira is a filly against the Boys and that can also play into Tommy Guns favour. I thought the inside track and outside track speed variances was the same. LoL Class will proveil.

I like Solar Triptych tomorrow. I think it will be more comfortable on a galloping track like the Vaal tomorrow, or so I'm hoping. Took the double with Mastermind in the first at Clairwood.

Break a leg.

Can someone tell me what the time factor for 5 kg over a 1000m race is.( Turffontein)