Prophet of Doom

winzip Wrote:

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> 2014 is turning into a nightmare for me.i love my
> uk racing,since no tv coverage i stopped playing
> horses,in fact i dont even watch 239 anymore
> because i refuse to play the local crap horses
> from crap centres where punting is a lottery with
> no policing of unreal results.to make matters
> worse liverpool fc is on the verge of winning the
> epl and that is not a prospect im looking forward
> to.lol.
>
> at least the ipl has started and i think the royal
> challengers bangalore have an outstanding chance
> of winning it this year.
>
> phum and tt got me hooked on uk racing,showing me
> what quality horses and jockeys really are and
> then they pull the plug and expect me to play this
> local crap where they want to make an avg
> horse,(ltk) who is only running against and
> beating avg to below avg horses from jhb, into a
> superstar to promote horseracing, which is on a
> serious decline in this country.makes me wonder if
> these fools running the game have any idea at all
> of what they are doing.


I agree with you 100% winzip including that liverpool scenario.

Pirhobeta Wrote:

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> Indicative of Phumelela's turnover.... they've
> succeeded in pissing people off....

Yep - quite true

I am obviously in the minority here - I enjoy not having to watch the 'international feed' (the exception being major meetings like Cheltenham, etc) - however why the studio presenter spends 10 minutes 'giving you a guide' on the JP Quickmix is beyond me; there should be a way for those that want, to watch 'international racing' - hopefully that is what Craig is saying - and not that we are going to be shown the chariots on 'our local channel' again :

@teamwildracing Wrote:

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> Perhaps more than anyone I would love to place the
> blame at phumelelas door but I have to say they
> the entire industry and almost all of its
> stakeholders stand accused ...
>
> But I would like to give credit where it's due to
> the ABC crew and Bloodstock SA who in my opinion
> are both making great strides to turning the tide
> it's just a great shame their efforts are not more
> recognized and that they don't get greater support
> from the broader horse racing industry for their
> efforts.

I have to agree ..............I get very frustrated when I see stakeholders who rely on the local racing industry for income feel compelled to throw their support behind the mismanagement of so many areas of the industry.
Perhaps its that idea that it would be fatal to oppose them due to being held to ransom by the monopoly!

ABC is one of the places where the consumer, or the end user, hangs out. Not every post here makes sense or is even informed, but there are many comments which are entirely correct.

I think the following is also correct: horse racing is a sport that will continue to diminish compared to its earlier glories when it was the main game in town, however until managers and boards take the trouble to know what the end user wants the racing game will shrink at an ever increasing rate.

One of the issues that will haunt us is that while the Telly Track debacle was allowed to affect the customers, P's shares make the company it's highest value to date, 1.6 Billion I believe. So while they cock up, they remain rewarded and keep their licence to do as they please. One sees that horse racing is tolerated because it facilitates a structure which makes money from thing other than local racing. The next incarnation of managers and board members will be asking themselves why bother much with local racing and so the tail will wag the dog.

Continuing from Jack Dash - and then racing will return to the club structure but with raped, stripped and tired assets.

Ou Ryperd Wrote:

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> I also feel that a lot of dedicated clanners are
> not given enough recognition for their constant
> brilliant input on this site. That goes for horse
> racing and all others sports.

Absolutely OR. Look at the work THH did yesterday at Fairview for example. Brilliant. 3 or 4 thank him for his efforts and 1 or 2 say well done. Clanners need a farking big kick up the @rse imo, both some of those who contribute and all the viewers only. It really p1sses me off that someone can do that much work, give it to us all for free, has an excellent success rate (I hope I am not putting the mockers on him!!) and most people just seem to take it for granted. Farking wake up people, if I were THH I'd say bollox to the lot of you and walk away and what a huge loss that would be to this forum. He probably won't because he seems a very decent, mellow person, all the more credit to him (tu) And less credit to the rest of the clan (td)

forum was buzzing yesterday,maybe takes the doom merchants to drag out the voyeurs

English,OU R, these days people that use the internet are spoiled and expect to be able to read great stuff,without having to give it a second thought..

I agree that we are spoilt on here with so many guys that are willing to put in effort

hibernia Wrote:

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> forum was buzzing yesterday,maybe takes the doom
> merchants to drag out the voyeurs

Well let me doom a bit more then < quality not quantity is what the forum has often been missing in the last 6-12 months imho (no disrespect to anyone intended, I am of course a clanner myself! ) Let's all think a little more about what this forum should be about, let more of us give our selections with a little reasoning behind why and try and pull back some of the excellent posters who have reduced their input or disappeared in recent times...

As for interesting "controversy", FH is proving a very sad loss, hope you are RIP bud (tu)

I'm not touching the horses but do acknowledge when any of the clanners post a good racing bet...

Methinks that the topics determine the responses...if a topic has been covered before with no progress / feedback / action / etc, not much is posted if a similar topic is started...

And with the horses, interest is down so not much will be posted...that is not to detract from the detailed analysis done and posted by clanners...just that the number of people interested in those posts are dwindling...

Englander,you don't think that it is a bit presumptuous for any one individual to decide what this forum should BE ABOUT?
Different people are looking to make different contributions and get different benefits.
Surely every poster use the forum in the way that suits THEMSELVES best!