The CAPE CRAWL

Sorry Craig I didn't realise that
But as a punter it is difficult to separate one body to the next.
And as racing is where it is perhaps its time to

Craig Eudey Wrote:

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> If the horse ,trainer and jockey were changed
> around the result would still have been changed.
> You are having a go at the integrity of the
> stipe's so I think this is one of the reasons real
> names should be used.


I agree with you Craige i - To think that on a day where there are millions of viewers the Stipes would concoct a result is insane - To say that they favored one horse over another because one was trained by Snaith and the other by Marwing is insulting to Marwing and his connections. I am not fond of many of the actions or lack of actions taken by the Stipes but in this case they used their Rules correctly

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I find it absolutely mind-boggling that owners of the 16 participating horses were prepared to part with all the Noms,Acceptances and other fees(+/- 40K) knowing that there wasn`t really going to be a strong pace on.(go out and set your own pace) (easier said than done Craig would say.)What do I know about training horses?On the other hand (in hindsight)Pomodoro could have been invited to run (past winner of the race and set the pace in the Met.(Sure Mr Tarry and Mr van Niekerk would`ve gladly accepted ).Just my thoughts.

mr hawaii Wrote:

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> it seems to me that the course played a huge part
> - so tight and it's easy to say nobody wanted to
> set the pace but it is difficult to set a strong
> pace if you are boxed in and cannot get out - for
> me that was the worst July I've watched and with a
> smaller field you'd expect more runners to have a
> chance but in fact most were already gone after
> the first bend - I'm afraid the Met is a fairer
> race as is the B Div Summer Cup

My perception, cos I don't really know these things, is that you are 100% correct Mr H and sadly I can't see it improving. I believe that there has been a huge investment in Greyville and it seems to me that, from a racing perspective, they have got it all wrong. But then again, I am not sure the investment had much to do with racing in itself, more to do with bucks. From a viewing perspective I think I would now rather they just made the whole track Poly, I just don't enjoy watching racing there, albeit on tv. From a punter perspective, low draws and those that like to lead/race handy will be very high in my list when making selections, even more so than previously on this course.

And please don't combine Poly races with turf races, do one or the other, tis like combining The Sport of Kings with a Donkey Derby for me, the two together just don't feel right. Maybe that is just a personal thing though.

Yesterday was the first day I can remember in a long, long time that I have chosen not to go through a card and have some sort of bet involvement in every race in a SA card. I had one bet. And that on SA's premier race meet... perhaps tells a story.

Zain_Nabi Wrote:

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> 5000 wins for Wylie Hall down the drain! Snaith
> couldn't stand to be a looser! He is a sore looser


what a stoopid comment

and from a real name poster

Mr Millard nearly always had a pacemaker in the race. It is a great idea but who is prepared to fork out the R40k+ knowing that you are basically sacrificing that horse in the race. If you are very confident about another of your own horses in the race and it needs a strong pace then you might do it. Bear in mind that there are probably other horses in the race as well that will benefit from a good pace. not an easy decision and an expensive one normally.

Zain_Nabi Wrote:

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> 5000 wins for Wylie Hall down the drain! Snaith
> couldn't stand to be a looser! He is a sore looser

Before you make absurd comments maybe get the facts....do you even know who asked for the objection....wasn't the trainer!The horse got so badly hampered with it was cripple yesterday....the right result prevailed.Tough for the 2 nd horse but rules must be adhered to ....

Craig Eudey Wrote:

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> Mr Millard nearly always had a pacemaker in the
> race. It is a great idea but who is prepared to
> fork out the R40k+ knowing that you are basically
> sacrificing that horse in the race. If you are
> very confident about another of your own horses in
> the race and it needs a strong pace then you might
> do it. Bear in mind that there are probably other
> horses in the race as well that will benefit from
> a good pace. not an easy decision and an expensive
> one normally.


I expected Bernard to make the pace but not sure if he could not get to the front or not

So many experienced jockeys in the race and we get that farce of a race, I will be avoiding feature race days in future as this trend looks set to continue with all the moderate horses racing in sa these days

Wow some of these posters have had one too many ales...

With respect to Greyville there were plenty favourites that won off a true pace yesterday. Don't think the course was that unfair...

IRO the July what fails to amaze me is how the jocks all know if there's no pace on and u then sit outside the first 4-5 runners as you enter the straight u got zero chance of winning. Why then sit at the back farting around? Why not make a move earlier?

Very poor effort on behalf of seasoned jocks yesterday. I can't see how the form of the race will stand up. Maybe Legislate would have won regardless but it's a pity we didn't get a true result for the rest of the runners.