Greyville Racing (nearly Dead)ready to be buried !

I have no right to comment on the state of SA racing, but Pirates knows what he is talking about as he lives in the area and reading his posts has been around Durban racing and SA racing for a long time. So I would take heed of what he says because he obviously has racing in his heart and only wants it to improve and not be going the way that it is.

pirates wrote: great answer bob ..lets change greyville racecourse to messiah racecourse as everything else in sa racing is going to fall away :lol:

Remember Charl saying shut all the tracks keep one super track open, sure the article was called Ramblings of a mad man ?

I asked him for it he said he can't remember writing it lol

racing is about turnover and getting the best quality fields you can assembled ..if you want punters to bet then follow the research that says fields between 12 to 14 runners give you the best possible turnover not races that have 6 to 8 horse fields...yes gold circle is trying their hardest to get night racing going and in theory its a great concept but I have been twice in the last few weeks and from a punting perspective it does very little for me when you have cards that have no depth to them....also from a purist perspective the polytrack racing has nothing from an excitement point of view compared to the grass track which is also much closer to the crowd...have the meetings on grass and you will get bigger fields and use the polytrack as a back up if it rains or when the grass is firm in winter

Craig Eudey wrote: Les, any article where the writer is critical and is not prepared to put his name to it when writing it goes into file 13! Back to the rugby until I see an intelligent thread. By the way Bob is right. Anyone who has been to Greyville in the past few months on a Friday night will see the increase in the number of people on course every week.

Craig, please refresh my memory.

I thought it was File 15. "Onopgespoor/Undetected"

Not arguing, just trying to remember something.

when I watch racing on television the only track that I actually would like to be at is Kenilworth these days ..in my opinion cape racing has improved in all aspects and if I lived in the cape would go racing regularly..

pirates wrote: when I watch racing on television the only track that I actually would like to be at is Kenilworth these days ..in my opinion cape racing has improved in all aspects and if I lived in the cape would go racing regularly..

Still gutted that Clairwood closed as it was the only decent track to watch as a punter from home,the rest have poor angles or mile long straights

I told you guys plenty of times.
I you want to read KAK then read the Sporting Post.

They will berate Gold Circle at every opportunity they get.

agra wrote: I told you guys plenty of times.
I you want to read KAK then read the Sporting Post.

They will berate Gold Circle at every opportunity they get.

if you want to read KAK then read the sporting post....well done you just qualified for the most pathetic comment on abc ...the tealady who works there has a better racing knowledge than you ..its read by the whos who of racing not just in sa but around the world ..karel miedema knowledge about all facets of racing is unmatched in this country

I am not sure who does the fb articles but they do ramble about everything they see on TT.

Bob Brogan wrote:

pirates wrote: when I watch racing on television the only track that I actually would like to be at is Kenilworth these days ..in my opinion cape racing has improved in all aspects and if I lived in the cape would go racing regularly..

Still gutted that Clairwood closed as it was the only decent track to watch as a punter from home,the rest have poor angles or mile long straights

What I dont like about the new courses, whether its a different surface or whether the track has been spliced, is that these tracks are now narrower causing the near-side rails obstructing the line of vision with the camera. A very crappy photographic vista. Like Pirates, up Kenilworth and for me also Borrowdale Park.

pirates wrote:

agra wrote: I told you guys plenty of times.
I you want to read KAK then read the Sporting Post.

They will berate Gold Circle at every opportunity they get.

if you want to read KAK then read the sporting post....well done you just qualified for the most pathetic comment on abc ...the tealady who works there has a better racing knowledge than you ..its read by the whos who of racing not just in sa but around the world ..karel miedema knowledge about all facets of racing is unmatched in this country

Whatever.... It is all about opinions

Why is it that every time a report which does just that - reports something that actually happened - the responding posts almost immediately degenerate into an 'us vs them ' argument? Or the messenger is hung, drawn & quartered and their motives questioned.

Does it follow, therefore, that we should erect a wall of silence around every bungle or contentious, controversial & unfortunate incident? Or better still - accept any 'spin' put out by the erring party?

I do, however, tend to agree with the writers who speculate that 'dirt' racing (ie all the synthetic surfaces) may not necessarily be the saviour of South African racing. I am too 'old school' to enjoy it as much as turf racing and I can't help but point to Kempton, Southwell, Lingfield & Wolverhampton in the UK as pointers to my contention that it has nowhere near the pulling power of traditional tracks for quite a lot of people.

I would rather measure the success or failure of SA racing purely on turnovers - the silent measure of a businesses' success. That tells an altogether different story no matter how we choose to re-arrange the deckchairs. There is no rush. Just a slow leak.