Ertijaal - Is this another special one.

zoro
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10 years 4 months ago

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Our new ''CHAMPION''???????????????????

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Titch
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10 years 4 months ago

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rob faux wrote: Beware of comparing times on the day :woohoo: ................it also suggests Arniston is a better horse than Futura ,at level weights !!!!!

I know it is dangerous to compare times but when one takes into account that the races were run within 1,5 hours of each other and that the times put Ertijaal some 8 Lengths plus ahead of the Met field carrying 6 KG's more than he would have carried in the J&B must surely equate to him being very hard to beat had he taken his place in the big race.

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Chris van Buuren
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10 years 4 months ago

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But you guys are asuing that wroth a quicker run Met the result would have been different. I'm not sure, we cannot speculate.

Either way Ertijaal is a super horse but Futura is a champ until the other one wombs 3 gr1's.

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Marc Lingard
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10 years 4 months ago

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Lengths behind tool shows that the entire Met field would have beaten only 2 horses in the Derby. Ridiculous.

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pirates
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10 years 4 months ago

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the 3yo crop of horses seems to be underated by the handicapper...gold onyx 2nd hmm no depth in older horses ranks .... majmu best horse in the country

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mister a
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Re: Ertijaal - Is this another special one.

10 years 4 months ago

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obviously the early stages of the Met was run slower than the early stages of the 3 year old race, this does not mean that the 3 year olds would have beaten the winner of the Met, it just gives you an idea of how the races were run, Ertijaal obviously quickened off a fast run race and Futura must have had plenty in hand having sliced through the field off a slower run race which normally would favor the front runners, LTH never ran his true race

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rob faux
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10 years 4 months ago - 10 years 4 months ago

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Both the Derby and the Met were reasonable results ..........LTK obviously below best (still only ever won at Turf) and the other 2 best rated ,were the exacta!
The Derby for me exposed the stamina of AoW...........travelled well enough till then IMO. Ertijaal's time is impressive against any measure!!!!!! but you have to ignore the comparative times that would give Arniston a MR of 118 :silly:

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10 years 4 months ago

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Was a practice run for the Dubai World Cup

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Tigershark
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10 years 4 months ago

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I think AoW is a top horse and will beat Ertijaal if they meet over 1600m again. I backed Ertijaal on Sat and believe that this horse is very, very special the problem is that he will leave us soon to race overseas and show the rest of the world how good he is.

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Bob Brogan
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Re: Ertijaal - Is this another special one.

10 years 4 months ago

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good2soft wrote: Was a practice run for the Dubai World Cup

Bred for the dirt? 14 months until the WC ,sure they have better options

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pirates
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10 years 4 months ago

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would be nice to know the future plans of ertijaal majmu cold as ice inara act of war legislate and futura ...ertijal incredible achievement has won in 3 different provinces and only 4 starts in a few months..said it before and will repeat mdk is 20 to 30 years ahead of the rest and in my lifetime will never see another like him and I was blessed to see Terence millard....a week before he wins a group one 5 furlong race with a 3yo filly and then the derby over 2000m a week later...we will never know how majmu would have gone in the met

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10 years 4 months ago

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pirates wrote: would be nice to know the future plans of ertijaal majmu cold as ice inara act of war legislate and futura ...ertijal incredible achievement has won in 3 different provinces and only 4 starts in a few months..said it before and will repeat mdk is 20 to 30 years ahead of the rest and in my lifetime will never see another like him and I was blessed to see Terence millard....a week before he wins a group one 5 furlong race with a 3yo filly and then the derby over 2000m a week later...we will never know how majmu would have gone in the met

Cold As Ice going to the UK with Haggas, there was meant to be a few others heading that way but not sure which ones

The De Kock yard always keep the cards close to their chest but before Saturday Majmu was the apple in their eys, so i would suspect that Majmu will still end up being better then Ertijaal

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