flamingo 23rd feb

See Peter stable raiding with 3 horses, betting 5/10 , 13/10 and 3/1 :huh:

horses already claimed :
He Rocks 7/1 - Human stable
Boarding Call 6/1 - Spies stable
Master Barry 2/1 - Lensley stable
La Tourelle 10/1 - Human stable
Steady as a Rock 3/1 - Lensley stable

Hope some of the guys and gals give some comments on their runners like last week. Really enjoyed the comments, win or lose.

All my horses are well race 1 both horses have definite place chances messenger john wouldnt be a shock winner master barry and steady big runners race 9 all the tens strong place chance

Card has some important scratchings. Amazing how many Joburg horses get scratched because of no transport. Surely they could be scratched earlier ?



Race No. Horse No. Horse Name Reason Time Date Adv. Advised By
1 1 Latino's Jet Not eating up 08:15 20150223 Tienie Prinsloo
1 5 Isabull Lame near fore 08:22 20150223 Phillip Smith
1 7 Black Panther Not eating up 08:15 20150223 Tienie Prinsloo
3 9 Dixie Rebel Coughing 08:21 20150223 S Miller
3 11 Ocean Mist Heat off fore joint 07:44 20150223 Coerie Lensley
5 2 Fantasy Hostess Lame near fore 08:22 20150223 S Miller
5 7 Rebel Magic Coughing 07:39 20150223 Cliffie Miller
6 6 Men And Mountains Bolted 07:45 20150223 Coerie Lensley
6 9 Social Media No transport 07:53 20150223 Brian Wiid
7 6 Red Peril Hoof Abcess 08:21 20150222 S von Willingh Smit
8 6 Tiger Would No transport 07:54 20150223 Brian Wiid

just saw latino jet scratched as i dont live here so dont no much about the betting in sa butt one thing really shocked it said 65 percent deduction which was like shocking to me is this true any bets made last night will be deducted?

jawad wrote: just saw latino jet scratched as i dont live here so dont no much about the betting in sa butt one thing really shocked it said 65 percent deduction which was like shocking to me is this true any bets made last night will be deducted?

Yes indeed. Very cruel

Still dont know why must the punter bears the brunt for scratched horses.
Especially when you read the lame excuses.

As if its the punters fault For No Transport(Race 6#9 @ 10% deduction )

Imo, if a punter has taken the risk to back an outsider (at fixed odds) instead of the hot pot favourite, the bookies should honour this bet instead of deducting due to a scratching. The punter obviously thought that this horse could win prior to the scratching of the fav? But thats only my opinion and im a small fish in a very big smelly pond

Merchy wrote: Imo, if a punter has taken the risk to back an outsider (at fixed odds) instead of the hot pot favourite, the bookies should honour this bet instead of deducting due to a scratching. The punter obviously thought that this horse could win prior to the scratching of the fav? But thats only my opinion and im a small fish in a very big smelly pond

I wonder will their rule of deductions stand in a court of law ?

good2soft wrote:

Merchy wrote: Imo, if a punter has taken the risk to back an outsider (at fixed odds) instead of the hot pot favourite, the bookies should honour this bet instead of deducting due to a scratching. The punter obviously thought that this horse could win prior to the scratching of the fav? But thats only my opinion and im a small fish in a very big smelly pond

I wonder will their rule of deductions stand in a court of law ?

There is probably some silly clause or small print mitigating their risk :dry:

Merchy wrote: Imo, if a punter has taken the risk to back an outsider (at fixed odds) instead of the hot pot favourite, the bookies should honour this bet instead of deducting due to a scratching. The punter obviously thought that this horse could win prior to the scratching of the fav? But thats only my opinion and im a small fish in a very big smelly pond

but the winning odds of that outsider have been greatly reduced when a favorite is scratched. It's basically a new "book" or race - imagine Majmu running in a Graduation - 1/10 and the field are now 8-1 and better - Now she is scratched you have to recreate the betting race so you cannot expect a punter that has backed the third on the boards(12-1) to still get those odds as the race has changed completely. The risk the punter took has changed regardless of which horse he backed . That's why a punter does NOT get penalized if he takes a BET AFTER the scratching and the betting has been adjusted

Hi Guys got interest in two runners Jet Shuttle got breathing problems ,Zietsman is confident of him running in the places I am not convinced that he can go much further than 1400m-Jack Friday will be trying his heart out again and is honest as they come but outclassed hope to place -Carribean Bay I think on run behind Black Pepper will be a big runner .Reports is track should run fast in early races but strong wind blowing which should dry it up.Happy punting

mr hawaii wrote:

Merchy wrote: Imo, if a punter has taken the risk to back an outsider (at fixed odds) instead of the hot pot favourite, the bookies should honour this bet instead of deducting due to a scratching. The punter obviously thought that this horse could win prior to the scratching of the fav? But thats only my opinion and im a small fish in a very big smelly pond

but the winning odds of that outsider have been greatly reduced when a favorite is scratched. It's basically a new "book" or race - imagine Majmu running in a Graduation - 1/10 and the field are now 8-1 and better - Now she is scratched you have to recreate the betting race so you cannot expect a punter that has backed the third on the boards(12-1) to still get those odds as the race has changed completely. The risk the punter took has changed regardless of which horse he backed . That's why a punter does NOT get penalized if he takes a BET AFTER the scratching and the betting has been adjusted

Mr H i understand your point of view and that odds certainly have to be readjusted,but what i am trying to say is if a punter is prepared to go against a 1/10 and back a 12/1 before there are any scratchings why should he now lose a major portion of his bet if the fav gets scratched? I fully understand why the prices are readjusted when there is a scratching but i cant for the life of me understand why a bet laid BEFORE there are any scratchings cannot be paid out as such.