The Vaal Thursday

I would include American Storm in calculations - Must have more problems than the EFF Finance Dept but has always been just off Grade 1 class - Top Appie that tries so could earn at any price

Loopy Logic wrote:

Candy wrote:

Loopy Logic wrote: Gems a Plenty is a solid contender today imo

I Concur

Had zero chance after the start...did nit look ready

And got the money back was scratched

LOCO POR GANAR - I think 375/100 is worth a bet

Orchestrated place

For me, Scotsnog is the one to beat but Majestic Bay won't be too far away at all.

When two decent tipsters in winning post and englander can't find a winner then we in big trouble

any takers on Double Bind?

or pyramus

These bookies know too much.Red savage 12-10 to 16-10 third. Forest lawn 2-1 to 4-1 third. Rascality 8-10 to 18-10 second. Shea devon 11-10 to 2-1 unplaced.They knew they were not going to win hence the drift.We can study all the form we want yet we don't know the well being of the horses and they seem to know, why can't we get that information.

Drubs the bookies only drift when there is no money and money for others, they won't drift a horse if there is no need to

durbs wrote: These bookies know too much.Red savage 12-10 to 16-10 third. Forest lawn 2-1 to 4-1 third. Rascality 8-10 to 18-10 second. Shea devon 11-10 to 2-1 unplaced.They knew they were not going to win hence the drift.We can study all the form we want yet we don't know the well being of the horses and they seem to know, why can't we get that information.

Rascality was traveling like a winner 200 out and Red Savage was a winner 50 out - Shea Devon - Rough race - so I doubt that the bookies knew as much as you think - Scotsnog was infact also backed in to Fav so the late money came for him not Shea Devon.

Bob they drift a horse to make us back it cause the odds look good.Do you really think they would double the odds if they thought it was going to win?One example is rascality.Some people on this forum thought it was a good thing then flaunt tells us to be careful.On the van zyl sight they expected it to win yet flaunt knew more than them and said it would probably need another run.The bookies knew that too and doubled the odds.It seems some people know more than the trainer.