Calling Pirates to put his big head where his ...

Huchergh wrote: I'm not trying to be funny,I genuinely don't understand how someone who produces ratings which he sells is not a tipster???

If you study the Computaform and sell them you are though?

My brandy and coke is great btw.

Not 2 much of that dilly juice, we dont need bob having to ban members at 2 in the morning.... :evil:

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easy wrote: Explanation needed from LOOPY


Flower post what he thinks are best bets from Loopy

I from the file got other horses....

This cannot be good BUT I'm sure there is a simple explanation...

The 3 i had of Loopy today were

Beluga
Royal Union Jet
Gumbi (bb)

but i finished ahead with my 3......so slightly confused where other selections came from?

I will copy and paste the email I got,as I don't subscribe.
I keep getting emails of Loopy when he's had a good day.

Email I received


Good morning guys,

The Winter season in Durbanville does proof to be a VERY tough challenge and we are quite glad that the disciplined ones following the GREENIEs would have effected damage control maybe although the top rated’s presented a WINNER (Bold Var (R2,20/R1,40), 2 x 2nd (Beulah R2,90) (Tigeress Dance R1,50) a 3rd (Ravishing Lad R1,90) and a 4th (Elusive Empress) from the 8 races which is still way better than many others fared.

We also picked up double our stake on the BIPOT on the small and large perms BUT the BIGGEST gains was tipping the R27,917.20 PA for 48 times on the small perm (R126,000/R1,340,025.60) and 144 times on the large perm (R302,400.00 / R4,020 076.80) both of them + 10/1 tickets!

Remember that the exotics are picked by an algorithm that is based on the numbers qualifying for the different set qualifying criteria hence the more numbers you see qualifying the bigger the chance of the upsets for the day which proved to be the case again yesterday with a C/over P6 and a R20k JP

So let’s move on to today at Scottsville where we have Good going although there has been some rain reported last 7 days . The 1st 3 races are all Mdn Juvenile plates so 2 yr old inconsistencies caution advised here.

July has been a tough month and looking back in history July 2014 was as hard so perhaps the change in season for horses birthdays and the winter has had an impact on our returns this month, so we looking forward to closing off July and then starting August 2015 with BIG prospects ahead.

Ratings are now available and we have a few GREENIES for you today with the BB being Gumbi with 16,5 and 10,5 points so not a strong BB again :

DO LOG IN and GRAB your FULL Ratings from the MEMBERS AREA

We do also like a bit of the Howells places Entrée & Princess beach races 6 & 7 :

Englander wrote: Huchergh lol don't worry about it mate. Imho Easy is entirely wrong, Loopy may have costs to cover but that does not mean he is not a tipster, though you could argue the computer rather than Loopy is the tipster! Anyway, I doubt very much Loopy will take no new members when the membership fees cancel out the costs, if that figure has not already been attained.

But, these threads pop-up every second month or so. Just people venting for the most part imo and it always come down to the same thing, join if you want to, ignore if you don't.

Thanks Oscar, hope your well, you always were/are too kind

Deserter): hope u are well Engelsman

I don't make a living out of punting but I LOVE it! I share info when I have it, thoughts when I get them and opinions when I care. .....

One thing that gets me riled up is people who post their ratings or computer thoughts and all people to follow them or subscribe or whatever. .....I don't like it. Keep your software to yourself or ask Bob and Dave of they can open a new section where you guys can fluff each other all day long. I'm sick of reading about your prowess.

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pirates wrote: at the end of the day who amongst all of you actually make a living out of punting on a full time basis never mind tipping competitions ?any of you

Pirates,get an account with 888sport,Unibet and 32red.
Then wait until Spanish football starts,they are clueless with their bookings market.
The average cards for normal matches is 5.8,for Barca,both Madrids and Espanyol matches it sky rockets.Ive got the stats of every ref,players the ref books regularly,which ref doesnt like back chat,diving and so on.
You can back plenty of 11/4s that should be 5/4 and 7/4s that should be 10/11.
I've been closed with them in many alias's.
I can give my advice FREE,if anyone gets account with them.Wont affect my punting,so it's there if anyone wants it.

pirates wrote: at the end of the day who amongst all of you actually make a living out of punting on a full time basis never mind tipping competitions ?any of you

Maybe Loopy's original point is actually correct.

You seem to think that you are superior to others here,based on the fact that you show a profit punting whilst others might not.

The fact that they may be worth plenty having made money elsewhere and just enjoy punting hardly makes you the superior being.

Huchergh wrote:

pirates wrote: at the end of the day who amongst all of you actually make a living out of punting on a full time basis never mind tipping competitions ?any of you

Maybe Loopy's original point is actually correct.

You seem to think that you are superior to others here,based on the fact that you show a profit punting whilst others might not.

The fact that they may be worth plenty having made money elsewhere and just enjoy punting hardly makes you the superior being.

im asking a very easy question to answer considering what has been said on this thread..its either yes or no quite simple

I make a profit punting.

Fark me sidewaze....there are so many heads that need beating here that even my base ball bat has gone on strike.....but one thing that remains very very consistent....intolerance.
Sad.

I was born into racing. Have seen so many come and go. I first met Pirates in 1988. I know of nobody in the game who has survived on punting only for as long as he has. Not selling info, not being paid for his work, just punting, taking the ups and the downs, but still in business.
Now, I agree that he can be painful at times and many is the time that we have disagreed. Thats life and the best way to deal with that is to get over it and move on.
But, when it comes to punting, he is brilliant and I respect that.

i project that by the end of this year i will show a profit, i also say that WITHOUT the option of an exchange you guys are massively disadvantaged.


Anyone that lives in the UK and wants to come to the office and see the setup is welcome (well almost anyone)

I don't mind sharing tactics / opinion or anything else...

To answer the question of "newspaper selecting / ownership selecting/inside info selecting Versus creating algorithms and / or formulas and then letting a machine produce ratings/selections i think the 2 are worlds apart....

a very small example.....

In the old days myself and a few others were obsessed with the GIN, some made a living fortune from following the GIN.

Now to follow the GIN Warren PAID people to go racing and report back their findings. The WHOLE operation cost money, had they chosen to provide the GIN as a selection/tip/info call it what you want ....i KNOW plenty (including myself) that WOULD have paid for it.

PAYING someone is not only about "inferior or superior" sometimes its about time.....

What loopy charges per month is CHEAP for what i obtain from it......