Greyville Wednesday 16/09/15
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Re: Greyville Wednesday 16/09/15
9 years 8 months ago
Think Hollywood were as big as 4/1,now 15/10
Dean it`s a first timer,what do you know?
Dean it`s a first timer,what do you know?
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9 years 8 months agoHeard this horse can run Bob. I saw the price of it and thought fuk it better run.Bob Brogan wrote: Think Hollywood were as big as 4/1,now 15/10
Dean it`s a first timer,what do you know?
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Re: Greyville Wednesday 16/09/15
9 years 8 months ago
looks a weak field of opposition to me
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Re: Greyville Wednesday 16/09/15
9 years 8 months ago - 9 years 8 months agoDean321 wrote: Race 1--Estimation. 7/2 is long gone.
part owned by one of my mate. A very expensive buy.
can run
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Re: Greyville Wednesday 16/09/15
9 years 8 months ago
No betting for race 8 on Hollywood....
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Re: Greyville Wednesday 16/09/15
9 years 8 months ago
Military Leader has been disappointing.. Maybe Tom he will pitch up to the track I mean the real ML
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Re: Greyville Wednesday 16/09/15
9 years 8 months ago
Purely on breeding IMO...it is a bit too short for Roy's Queen...
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Re: Greyville Wednesday 16/09/15
9 years 8 months ago
and that will probably be my famous last words...


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Re: Greyville Wednesday 16/09/15
9 years 8 months agoDean321 wrote: Race 1--Estimation. 7/2 is long gone.
Why is this horse Estimation not classified has an American bred horse although it's bred by Klawervlei. The stallion is based in the USA. In the racecards they should have before SNL and SSL meaning sired north of the line and south of the line.
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Distorted Humor Colt Surpasses $1.5 MillionBy Frank Angst, September 15, 2015 12:27 PM2 CommentsBreeding, Sales, Kentucky
Photo: Keeneland Photo
Hip 277, a colt by Distorted Humor, brought $1,525,000.
A Distorted Humor colt rocketed to the top about an hour into the second day of the KeenelandSeptember yearling sale on Tuesday, Sept. 15.
Three Chimneys Farm went to $1,525,000 to land the colt, who is out of the grade II-winning Unbridled's Song mareForest Music. The yearling is a half brother to grade III winner Kentuckian, who is by Tiznow. Consigned by Taylor Made Sales Agency, agent for breeder Barbara Banke's Stonestreet Thoroughbred Holdings, the colt was sold as Hip 277.
The colt was offered about one hour into the second day of the sale, which also is the second of three Book 1 sessions. The winning bid registered as the top price paid for any yearling so far at this year's sale.
Goncalo Torrealba, of Three Chimneys, sees potential for the colt on the track and beyond.
"We looked at the pedigree and hopefully he'll be our next stallion. We may race him with Stonestreet. We're excited. Everything (impressed us)," Torrealba said, then adding that he had to dig in on the bidding. "You always go a little further (than you expect), but the good ones are hard to come by."
Banke said she is interested in buying back in for a percentage in the colt, noting that she loves Forest Music, who won the 2005 Honorable Miss Handicap (gr. II) for Stonestreet at Saratoga Race Course.
"This colt, my son said, 'Do not sell this colt.' And this mare gets runners. I'm going to stay in for some of him," Banke said. "I love the mare. I have a painting of her in my dining room. She was super-fast, she raced every two weeks going around the country. And he looks like a runner, he acts like a runner. He worked hard every day and does everything right."
Three Chimneys could be open for Banke partnering on some level on the colt.
"We're discussing what we think on that. Three Chimneys is all about trying to build good partnerships so we always go in with the idea of a partnership," Torrealba said. "Partnering with good people is what we're about. We're very excited."
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Re: Greyville Wednesday 16/09/15
9 years 8 months ago
good luck to all those on estimation...
For me, I am having 1 big punt for the day, and will have to wait until the last race... Sutherfeni to me is the bet of the day at 7/1....
Will take a few doubles with it, but basically if it looses, I'm farked... All eggs in 1 basket for me....
For me, I am having 1 big punt for the day, and will have to wait until the last race... Sutherfeni to me is the bet of the day at 7/1....
Will take a few doubles with it, but basically if it looses, I'm farked... All eggs in 1 basket for me....
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Re: Greyville Wednesday 16/09/15
9 years 8 months ago
Still amazed Jooste sold this filly Estimation. Normally big stud farms around the world keep their fillies especially if they well related. This runner is related to Estimate the Queen's horse who won the Ascot Gold Cup. Below, worth a read.
Out of America…
Klawervlei Stud has a history of cultivating some of the best bloodlines in South Africa. The farm, situated North East of Cape Town, has bred and raised nine Group 1 winners, including G1 Cape Derby winner Big City Life (SAf) (Casey Tibbs {Ire}) and G1 Al Quoz Sprint hero Shea Shea (SAf) (National Emblem {SAf}). In 2010, however, the farm kicked off a new venture that saw the Klawervlei team travel to Keeneland November, where they purchased four in-foal mares. After letting the mares foal out in the U.S., Klawervlei bred them back on Southern Hemisphere time–three to Distorted Humor and one to Speightstown–before shipping them back to South Africa to foal. The resulting foals are being offered over the next two evenings at the Cape Premier Yearling Sale. They are lot 73, a filly by Distorted Humor out of a half-sister to G1 Ascot Gold Cup winner Estimate (Ire) (Monsun {Ger}) purchased for $150,000; lot 144, a Distorted Humor colt out of Ms Blue Blood (A.P. Indy), a half-sister to GI Kentucky Derby winner Monarchos bought for $190,000; lot 178, a son of Speightstown out of Rubicat (Storm Cat), a half-sister to multiple graded stakes winner Strut theStage (Theatrical) from the family of champion and Grade I winner Chief Bearhart (Chief’s Crown) and Grade I winner Private Zone (Macho Uno) purchased for $200,000, and lot 184, a Distorted Humor filly from the family of British Group 1 winners Duke of Marmalade (Ire) (Danehill) and Ruler of the World (Ire) (Galileo {Ire}), bought for $110,000.
Explaining the farm’s reasons for deciding to import American-bred mares, John Koster, Managing Director and part-owner of Klawervlei, said: “American female lines have done extremely well in South Africa. When you look at America, it’s all about the speed, so that was the reason we went there that specific year, was to get as many American lines as we could.”
Koster explained that when the mares traveled to South Africa, they were placed in Klawervlei’s state-registered pregnant mare quarantine facility, where they foaled down. They have since produced foals by South African stallions, and the results have been such that the Klawervlei team returned to Keeneland November again last year and bought five more mares to run through the same program.
“The whole idea is to boost the South African broodmare band,” Koster said. “We can’t shuttle our stallions, so the only way we can really improve our broodmare genes is to buy these mares from overseas. We’ve bought a lot of mares in Europe and we’ve decided to go the American route, and it’s really paid off when you look at the specimens we’ve got and the female lines we’ve been able to get.”
“All four are really, really nice specimens,” he added. “It doesn’t often happen in this country that one can get purebred American yearlings at a sale like this, so they’ve attracted a lot of interest from the international people especially that have been coming down here.”
The Klawervlei youngsters are not the only ones in the catalogue representing U.S.-based sires. Giant’s Causeway is represented by lot 53, listed above, and Tapit is the sire of lot 97, filly out of the U.S.-bred Granny Leah (Orientate), a daughter of South African champion Harry’s Charm (SAf).
Out of America…
Klawervlei Stud has a history of cultivating some of the best bloodlines in South Africa. The farm, situated North East of Cape Town, has bred and raised nine Group 1 winners, including G1 Cape Derby winner Big City Life (SAf) (Casey Tibbs {Ire}) and G1 Al Quoz Sprint hero Shea Shea (SAf) (National Emblem {SAf}). In 2010, however, the farm kicked off a new venture that saw the Klawervlei team travel to Keeneland November, where they purchased four in-foal mares. After letting the mares foal out in the U.S., Klawervlei bred them back on Southern Hemisphere time–three to Distorted Humor and one to Speightstown–before shipping them back to South Africa to foal. The resulting foals are being offered over the next two evenings at the Cape Premier Yearling Sale. They are lot 73, a filly by Distorted Humor out of a half-sister to G1 Ascot Gold Cup winner Estimate (Ire) (Monsun {Ger}) purchased for $150,000; lot 144, a Distorted Humor colt out of Ms Blue Blood (A.P. Indy), a half-sister to GI Kentucky Derby winner Monarchos bought for $190,000; lot 178, a son of Speightstown out of Rubicat (Storm Cat), a half-sister to multiple graded stakes winner Strut theStage (Theatrical) from the family of champion and Grade I winner Chief Bearhart (Chief’s Crown) and Grade I winner Private Zone (Macho Uno) purchased for $200,000, and lot 184, a Distorted Humor filly from the family of British Group 1 winners Duke of Marmalade (Ire) (Danehill) and Ruler of the World (Ire) (Galileo {Ire}), bought for $110,000.
Explaining the farm’s reasons for deciding to import American-bred mares, John Koster, Managing Director and part-owner of Klawervlei, said: “American female lines have done extremely well in South Africa. When you look at America, it’s all about the speed, so that was the reason we went there that specific year, was to get as many American lines as we could.”
Koster explained that when the mares traveled to South Africa, they were placed in Klawervlei’s state-registered pregnant mare quarantine facility, where they foaled down. They have since produced foals by South African stallions, and the results have been such that the Klawervlei team returned to Keeneland November again last year and bought five more mares to run through the same program.
“The whole idea is to boost the South African broodmare band,” Koster said. “We can’t shuttle our stallions, so the only way we can really improve our broodmare genes is to buy these mares from overseas. We’ve bought a lot of mares in Europe and we’ve decided to go the American route, and it’s really paid off when you look at the specimens we’ve got and the female lines we’ve been able to get.”
“All four are really, really nice specimens,” he added. “It doesn’t often happen in this country that one can get purebred American yearlings at a sale like this, so they’ve attracted a lot of interest from the international people especially that have been coming down here.”
The Klawervlei youngsters are not the only ones in the catalogue representing U.S.-based sires. Giant’s Causeway is represented by lot 53, listed above, and Tapit is the sire of lot 97, filly out of the U.S.-bred Granny Leah (Orientate), a daughter of South African champion Harry’s Charm (SAf).
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