SIFTING THROUGH THE WRECKAGE

  • PeeKay
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Re: SIFTING THROUGH THE WRECKAGE

8 years 11 months ago
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Bob Brogan wrote: Bob tipped him at 50/1 :)

And PeeKay....last year and this year.!!! I had a few bob on but would have preferred Marinaresco

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Re: SIFTING THROUGH THE WRECKAGE

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Just to add to the 'openness' of the vent - factor in that any horse also had a real chance of stumbling and / or being bumped etc. etc. as a result of the current condition and layout of the track and it should be apparent that one needs more that a fair dose of luck to back a winner on the day.

Well done to those that managed to finish in front - and especially to Naresh and Chicken who scooped the pool in the competition.

For myself I had a disastrous day - bar the main race where The Conglomerate (courtesy of Ante Post flutters) was actually my 2nd best result after Solid Speed (what happened to him :ohmy:) - this can be verified on one of the threads where I listed my bets. And being a small punter, that one successful bet actually had the effect that I did end up with a small profit on the day B)

I see that the Abashiri man has also come out complaining about the condition of the track and although this does smack of sour grapes, imo he certainly has a point - there were just too many horses on the day that performed way below ability. Will be interesting to see if his 'discussions' with the sponsor results in some action or not.

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Re: SIFTING THROUGH THE WRECKAGE

8 years 11 months ago - 8 years 11 months ago
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Garrick wrote: The July has come and gone again for another year.

Most of the pundits have ended up with egg on their faces. This victim managed to escape with only R10k of 'damage' - for which I am actually quite grateful as I restricted my activity to the July only and resisted the temptation to nibble at the supporting races which would probably have only magnified my horrendously inaccurate picks.......

Now is not the time to replay the multitude of panel discussions which dealt with the race & much of the supporting card unless you wish to be cautioned for next year. I hope the panel members did not put too much of their money where the mouths went or they must be suffering from a severe bout of retching as I write this!

I mentioned in a post prior to the July that big race meetings should be avoided if punting is your game. Better to simply 'flutter & socialise' despite the fact that this represents one of the few opportunities to 'get on' without eliciting squeals of pain & outrage from odds layers.

Habitual punters tend to overlook some unique issues which are in play for a big race:

There are usually fully 18 'live' runners. Yes - there are inevitably a handful that can be discarded on strict form study but they nevertheless remain 'live' on the basis of intent, preparation and fitness.

So your fancy starts off at a simple arithmetic level as a 17/1 shot to deliver no matter how good experts would have you believe that runner is. Throw in a second selection and that contracts to a 9/1 chance that you are on a winner. These are not good odds for a joyous outcome, people..............

Now factor in form, well being, draws, weather, rumour, tipster 'noise' etc., & the whole shebang takes on a decidedly lottery hue rather than a 'big punt' proposition.

On the very same day you could have backed the Chiefs to beat the Crusaders at odds of 12/10 (or slightly better). The 'starting artithmetic' possibility of this outcome was comparatively a mere 2/1 against you although probability dictated that the third option of the draw is, in betting parlance, only a 4% likelihood. So 2/1 against the Chiefs winning was an extreme likelihood but nevertheless an arithmetic reality.

Now who would be interested in backing this 'horse' at 12/10? Hardly the basis for a life changing win. Clearly not until you consider that the opposition comprised only two other runners - namely the opposing Crusaders & The Draw. No relatively unconsidered Conglomerates in sight!

Maybe this is why most sane citizens restrict their horse racing activities to 2/3 times a year and leave the rest of it to nutters such as myself!

However - and working from memory only - I must commend Graham Hawkins on steadfastly & repeatedly recommending Punta Arenas as a likely candidate to win an earlier feature at odds of 12/1 ( my type of horse bet!) & the Form Organisation - whose unemotional form analysis threw up 5 'most likely on known form & ability' potential July winners ( and only 4 after one late scratching) amongst which small group lurked the eventual winner. Score one for form study.

....and well done to those 3,4 winning Pick 6 ticketholders who became multi millionaires in the space of an afternoon. Your Ferrari dealer awaits you.....although you may need to go 'slightly used' as opposed to brand spanking new at current prices.

i was super lucky that day got away only losing 900R, but i'm guessing my 900r is your 10 000r if you know what i mean.

i kept remembering what you said in my thread, stay away from large meetings - unless you find losing money fun.

Will update my thread soon...
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