Bookies at Durbanville

PeeKay
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Bookies at Durbanville

7 years 7 months ago

I just happened to be on course at Durbanville in the week and there were no bookies in their normal spot. the only bookie was Betting world upstairs.

is there a reason they not there? I'm hearing different reasons from they not making money, they being pushed out cos they want the punters to bet on the tote and because of the revamp there is a problem.with their licences and the licence fees are now stupidly high.

Are we soon only going to be seeing them on big race days?

Who or what to believe??!?

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Re: Bookies at Durbanville

7 years 7 months ago

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They increased the rents substantially

Before the revamp R5-6000 per month
Now asking R30000 per month

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7 years 7 months ago

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If this is true, it is just another example of Phumelela bullying. R30K a month to stand on a course that hosts midweek meetings and attracts a handful of people. Do me a favour.

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7 years 7 months ago

#693028

Now that is disgusting

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Re: Bookies at Durbanville

7 years 7 months ago

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Shocking.. And i thought about going to the course on saturday,so if i want a bet i must go upstairs to betting world! Havent had a bet with bettingworld for years, whenever i did after asking the price they say 5/1 then i say 500/100 , next thing it changes and they say 450/100 and after trying to enter that while its 4/1 .Thats bettingworld, with the oncourse bookmakers that never happens, they honour the price that they offered me. The non franchise bookmakers are always nice to deal with ,characters.Oncourse bookmakers was always part of my racing experience when i first got involved in racing,they always acomodate. it would be disgusting if they are trying to be mowed out the picture.

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Re: Bookies at Durbanville

7 years 7 months ago

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Bokked wrote: They increased the rents substantially

Before the revamp R5-6000 per month
Now asking R30000 per month

It's in that region.

I have a friend who's been an on course bookmaker in CT in recent years.

Fees were about 60k per year,now about 420k,so what Bokked says is accurate.

They were in fact supposed to be going up by the end of February this year,but they changed it and the bookmakers stayed on for a few months more.They've stopped now though,it simply doesn't warrant that kind of money.

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7 years 7 months ago

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They have shut down race courses and now they are pushing the bookies out. What next? Horses been barred from the track?

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7 years 7 months ago

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shocking state of affairs.

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Huchergh
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7 years 7 months ago - 7 years 7 months ago

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I know times change,obviously,but for me one of the reasons racing was so exciting in the past was the intrigue that being on course brought.

My friend and I started going to the course when we were 16,and one of the best parts of it used to be watching which bookies were doing what,and then later analysing the result of the race and trying to work out which bookies were the real shrewdies.Intigue.

Punters loved to gather around the bookmaker when one of the big punters approached a bookmaker,and then they'd scatter to go get their own bets on at other bookmakers in order to follow him.Intrigue.

In subsequent years when I was a runner on course whilst I was studying,one quickly realized just how often the 'followers' were in fact being misled by the bookies,who shortened the 'wrong' horse in order to cause a stampede on the 'wrong' horse.Intrigue.

As a runner trying to get on for your bookmakers 'take backs' was exhilarating.On my 1st day on course I was sent by my boss to get on a Millard hottie which was priced up at 2-1.By the time I'd been around the ring the horse was now 1-1 and I'd got back exactly 00000.Intrigue.

Imo being on course at South African race courses is just a totally mundane experience now.There is nothing happening between the races so the 35 break between races is too long.

Things change,I get that,and as we get older nostalgia sets in.

Imo racing oncourse lacks intrigue though,and that's never coming back to our courses.

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7 years 7 months ago

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And when the on-course bookie did shorten he still gave the queueing punters the price before he shortened.
And the bookie would thank the punter by saying “Sir” even if the punter was just 18yo. This from my experience

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Re: Bookies at Durbanville

7 years 7 months ago

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Huchergh wrote: I know times change,obviously,but for me one of the reasons racing was so exciting in the past was the intrigue that being on course brought.

My friend and I started going to the course when we were 16,and one of the best parts of it used to be watching which bookies were doing what,and then later analysing the result of the race and trying to work out which bookies were the real shrewdies.Intigue.

Punters loved to gather around the bookmaker when one of the big punters approached a bookmaker,and then they'd scatter to go get their own bets on at other bookmakers in order to follow him.Intrigue.

In subsequent years when I was a runner on course whilst I was studying,one quickly realized just how often the 'followers' were in fact being misled by the bookies,who shortened the 'wrong' horse in order to cause a stampede on the 'wrong' horse.Intrigue.

As a runner trying to get on for your bookmakers 'take backs' was exhilarating.On my 1st day on course I was sent by my boss to get on a Millard hottie which was priced up at 2-1.By the time I'd been around the ring the horse was now 1-1 and I'd got back exactly 00000.Intrigue.

Imo being on course at South African race courses is just a totally mundane experience now.There is nothing happening between the races so the 35 break between races is too long.

Things change,I get that,and as we get older nostalgia sets in.

Imo racing oncourse lacks intrigue though,and that's never coming back to our courses.