FLAMINGO PARK 23/10/17
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Re: FLAMINGO PARK 23/10/17
7 years 10 months ago - 7 years 10 months agochicken n chips wrote: played this each way lucky 15 (a typical mugs bet)
11:20 FLAMINGO PARK (South Africa) Outright - Race Swell Time SP Standard EW terms apply Won Unsettled
11:50 FLAMINGO PARK (South Africa) Outright - Race Zaragoza SP Standard EW terms apply Won Unsettled
12:20 FLAMINGO PARK (South Africa) Outright - Race Venturi SP Standard EW terms apply None Unsettled
12:50 FLAMINGO PARK (South Africa) Outright - Race Pretty Wendy SP Standard EW terms apply None Unsettled
Bet ID: 79395181900 09:06 Bet Type: Lucky 15 Stake: £ 15.00
Chicken you really think that I was born yesterday. So forgive the cynic in me, you post this AFTER the running of the second race and surprise surprise you have already tipped a nice double and then gone for the 2 favourites of which one LOST. Have a look at my post I quite clearly stated POST YOUR BETS BEFORE THE 1ST.
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Re: FLAMINGO PARK 23/10/17
7 years 10 months ago
Let me illustrate my point:
11:20 FLAMINGO PARK (South Africa) Outright - Race Swell Time SP Standard EW terms apply Won Unsettled
11:50 FLAMINGO PARK (South Africa) Outright - Race Zaragoza SP Standard EW terms apply Won Unsettled
12:20 FLAMINGO PARK (South Africa) Outright - Race Rock Burner SP Standard EW terms apply Won Unsettled
12:50 FLAMINGO PARK (South Africa) Outright - Race Pretty Wendy SP Standard EW terms apply Won Unsettled
13:20 FLAMINGO PARK (South Africa) Outright - Race Portman Square SP Standard EW terms apply Won Unsettled
13:50 FLAMINGO PARK (South Africa) Outright - Race Pep Squad SP Standard EW terms apply Won Unsettled
14:20 FLAMINGO PARK (South Africa) Outright - Race Silent Starship SP Standard EW terms apply Won Unsettled
Bet ID: 123456789 09:06 Bet Type: Lucky 99 Stake: £ 35000000000000000.00[/quote]
11:20 FLAMINGO PARK (South Africa) Outright - Race Swell Time SP Standard EW terms apply Won Unsettled
11:50 FLAMINGO PARK (South Africa) Outright - Race Zaragoza SP Standard EW terms apply Won Unsettled
12:20 FLAMINGO PARK (South Africa) Outright - Race Rock Burner SP Standard EW terms apply Won Unsettled
12:50 FLAMINGO PARK (South Africa) Outright - Race Pretty Wendy SP Standard EW terms apply Won Unsettled
13:20 FLAMINGO PARK (South Africa) Outright - Race Portman Square SP Standard EW terms apply Won Unsettled
13:50 FLAMINGO PARK (South Africa) Outright - Race Pep Squad SP Standard EW terms apply Won Unsettled
14:20 FLAMINGO PARK (South Africa) Outright - Race Silent Starship SP Standard EW terms apply Won Unsettled
Bet ID: 123456789 09:06 Bet Type: Lucky 99 Stake: £ 35000000000000000.00[/quote]
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Re: FLAMINGO PARK 23/10/17
7 years 10 months ago
OTA if you don’t believe me then that’s your problem. No matter if I won or not you were never ever going to donate any money. You can now stop your insults as well .
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Re: FLAMINGO PARK 23/10/17
7 years 10 months ago
Chicken..we were all waiting to see your selections. You entered in a friendly wager and your selections were made public after the running of the first two races. I am not saying that you did not play it at all but when you take up a challenge you must come to he party.
As for racing in Kimberley. The biggest mistake the racing authorities made was by closing the Vaal sandtrack. The biggest outcry against dirt racing came from people making a living on foreign soil on some of their dirt tracks.
There were always be a place for racing on sand. We struggle in Cape Town to fill a 7 horse field yet the Kimberley trainers can fill fields with 12 and more runners for 12 races every meeting.
Chicken dont worry i am the cheat here. I supplied 17 of the runners that ran or would have ran today to various trainers/owners. I deal a lot with the trainers and have some insight ..but my forecast is done well ahead and is my own selections..no info was used in any of the selections..
tx Bob and co for a fantastic site...hoping our friends in FORMGRIDS come back on air in the very near future.
As for racing in Kimberley. The biggest mistake the racing authorities made was by closing the Vaal sandtrack. The biggest outcry against dirt racing came from people making a living on foreign soil on some of their dirt tracks.
There were always be a place for racing on sand. We struggle in Cape Town to fill a 7 horse field yet the Kimberley trainers can fill fields with 12 and more runners for 12 races every meeting.
Chicken dont worry i am the cheat here. I supplied 17 of the runners that ran or would have ran today to various trainers/owners. I deal a lot with the trainers and have some insight ..but my forecast is done well ahead and is my own selections..no info was used in any of the selections..
tx Bob and co for a fantastic site...hoping our friends in FORMGRIDS come back on air in the very near future.
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Re: FLAMINGO PARK 23/10/17
7 years 10 months agoNic Botes wrote: Chicken..we were all waiting to see your selections. You entered in a friendly wager and your selections were made public after the running of the first two races. I am not saying that you did not play it at all but when you take up a challenge you must come to he party.
As for racing in Kimberley. The biggest mistake the racing authorities made was by closing the Vaal sandtrack. The biggest outcry against dirt racing came from people making a living on foreign soil on some of their dirt tracks.
There were always be a place for racing on sand. We struggle in Cape Town to fill a 7 horse field yet the Kimberley trainers can fill fields with 12 and more runners for 12 races every meeting.
Chicken dont worry i am the cheat here. I supplied 17 of the runners that ran or would have ran today to various trainers/owners. I deal a lot with the trainers and have some insight ..but my forecast is done well ahead and is my own selections..no info was used in any of the selections..
tx Bob and co for a fantastic site...hoping our friends in FORMGRIDS come back on air in the very near future.
Nic to be perfectly honest , i had forgotten about his post. I had a break and went onto the site and then posted my lucky 15 ticket after the the first two legs had run. In hindsight i should not have done that. Everybody knows that i back Ziets horses each way at every meeting so did not find that necessary to post up. For the record i did make a profit from Flamingo today.
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Re: FLAMINGO PARK 23/10/17
7 years 10 months ago
Chicken I will pay up with a smile when the challenge is accepted fairly. Lets do it next week and lets have the selections in on time.
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Re: FLAMINGO PARK 23/10/17
7 years 10 months ago
Well done Chicken...i think :lol:
I know you love ZIETSMAN and Kimberley
I know you love ZIETSMAN and Kimberley

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Re: FLAMINGO PARK 23/10/17
7 years 10 months ago - 7 years 10 months ago
So it turns out that Kimberley is actually a classic racing track - the two purest handicap indicators appear to be the two most significant factors at this track. Recent Form and Weight. I ran some macro across the form based on these principles and suddenly yesterdays card opened up, like a light bulb was switched on - taking me back to how I used to evaluate races back when i was 16
Weight is something I stopped considering many years ago, and it hasn't been a factor in my analysis for a long time. I have started to experiment with some consideration of weight again though.
This track sees stables racing horses week in and week out - three or four per race, until one shows signs oof form - don't they have a training track at Kimberley?
Of course it was just one meeting , and the next may throw some curve balls --- but it all made a lot more sense yesterday.
Weight is something I stopped considering many years ago, and it hasn't been a factor in my analysis for a long time. I have started to experiment with some consideration of weight again though.
This track sees stables racing horses week in and week out - three or four per race, until one shows signs oof form - don't they have a training track at Kimberley?
Of course it was just one meeting , and the next may throw some curve balls --- but it all made a lot more sense yesterday.
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Re: FLAMINGO PARK 23/10/17
7 years 10 months agopirates wrote:VERY KEEN to read the stipes report tomorow regarding this and watch how this incident will be kept under the lapmr hawaii wrote: 50.8 No PERSON shall enter or start a HORSE for or in a RACE if such HORSE is or has been
50.8.1 at a REGISTERED spelling farm at any time during a period of 14 DAYS prior to a RACE
or
50.8.2 at an unregistered spelling farm or a stud farm at any time during a period of 30 DAYS prior
to a RACE.
Someone pointed out to me that a certain trainer had 2 horses scratched today for this rule - They are both owned by the same person - I am just speculating here but could it be that both horses were based on a farm somewhere (maybe the owner looked after them and trained them ) and then were just sent to the races under this trainer's name? The facts are limited at this point but I assume the stipes(It was a stipe that scratched them) will investigate to rule out under the lap training - Very strange indeed
FRANCOIS P – scratched in terms of Rule 50.8.2 (advised 20 October 2017 / 11:22). An inquiry will be opened into the circumstances surrounding the scratching of FRANCOIS P
I think somebody in the dwang big time
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Re: FLAMINGO PARK 23/10/17
7 years 10 months agomr hawaii wrote:pirates wrote:VERY KEEN to read the stipes report tomorow regarding this and watch how this incident will be kept under the lapmr hawaii wrote: 50.8 No PERSON shall enter or start a HORSE for or in a RACE if such HORSE is or has been
50.8.1 at a REGISTERED spelling farm at any time during a period of 14 DAYS prior to a RACE
or
50.8.2 at an unregistered spelling farm or a stud farm at any time during a period of 30 DAYS prior
to a RACE.
Someone pointed out to me that a certain trainer had 2 horses scratched today for this rule - They are both owned by the same person - I am just speculating here but could it be that both horses were based on a farm somewhere (maybe the owner looked after them and trained them ) and then were just sent to the races under this trainer's name? The facts are limited at this point but I assume the stipes(It was a stipe that scratched them) will investigate to rule out under the lap training - Very strange indeed
FRANCOIS P – scratched in terms of Rule 50.8.2 (advised 20 October 2017 / 11:22). An inquiry will be opened into the circumstances surrounding the scratching of FRANCOIS P
I think somebody in the dwang big time
On the positive side, it seems that having a permanent stipe in Kimberley could be paying dividends.
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