Vaal Tuesday
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7 years 10 months ago - 7 years 10 months agopirates wrote:PLEASE EXPLAIN HOW ORO NEGRO HAS a chance on handicaping in race 5?Adams wrote: Not so sure about the formula's --- There are a couple of handicapping rules that apply wherever one is and are actually quite simple.
(1) Horse must have demonstrated sufficient class to be nominated in today's race.
(2) Horse should be fast enough to compete with the field,
(3) Horse should be fit
That's about all involved in my handicapping ----if that amounts to formula's
Persist with the horse at 1400m and 1600m, First time out over longer 1800 , horse has never been backed at anything less than 66/1 , but starts at 5/1 and wins going away. Today has a very low weight , and would not surprise me to see it in the placings over 2000m. Ordinarily trainers might push their maiden winner into a weak handicap if it was still in shape , and use stronger races to bring the horse back into shape if it wasn't. In this horses case there doesn't seem to be any need to stay under the radar in a high level handicap, since it's already had two very poor subsequent runs. On the other hand this might just be poor training, given the 1.9% strike rate of the stable - which is hard to believe since they got that 1800m race spot on. Hence i give it a chance, it could also flop hopelessly of course.
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7 years 10 months agoAdams wrote:
Race 3: Angelic, Goede Hoop and Man Eater need to show some improvement – Man Eater looks bred for sprints. If there is no improvement from any of them, then Generoso (Currently shows no recent form) or Purdey could have a say.
Adams just a heads up, Man eater has got Giants causeway in her blood, that suggests she's looking for this trip if not further
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7 years 10 months agoGladiator wrote:Gladiator wrote: Greetings Clanners. Yet another meetino threatened by bad weather and thunder storm in spots. I think if they do race the value has to lie with middle path and eight cities in the first. middle path ran second to ya keen who is priced up favourite in race 4 after a convincing debut win. eight cities ran second to useful darkest hour. priced up 6/1 and 14/1 respectively. I like a bit of the 10/1 on offer with striker in race 5. Could be a real Fortune Fella today jockey strike and pacifiers on.
I trust the guys were listening or reading
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7 years 10 months ago
cannot say anything about the next race - I liked Beautiful Shay - but not as favourite, with 70% against.
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7 years 10 months agoAdams wrote:pirates wrote:PLEASE EXPLAIN HOW ORO NEGRO HAS a chance on handicaping in race 5?Adams wrote: Not so sure about the formula's --- There are a couple of handicapping rules that apply wherever one is and are actually quite simple.
(1) Horse must have demonstrated sufficient class to be nominated in today's race.
(2) Horse should be fast enough to compete with the field,
(3) Horse should be fit
That's about all involved in my handicapping ----if that amounts to formula's
Persist with the horse at 1400m and 1600m, First time out over longer 1800 , horse has never been backed at anything less than 66/1 , but starts at 5/1 and wins going away. Today has a very low weight , and would not surprise me to see it in the placings over 2000m. Ordinarily trainers might push their maiden winner into a weak handicap if it was still in shape , and use stronger races to bring the horse back into shape if it wasn't. In this horses case there doesn't seem to be any need to stay under the radar in a high level handicap, since it's already had two very poor subsequent runs. On the other hand this might just be poor training, given the 1.9% strike rate of the stable - which is hard to believe since they got that 1800m race spot on. Hence i give it a chance, it could also flop hopelessly of course.
The only scenario where Oro Negro (1 win and 0 places out of 16 runs and 10 kgs out at the weights) would have even a remote chance, would be if experienced jocks like Strydom gets the pace totally wrong - not too much chance of that happening imo
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7 years 10 months ago - 7 years 10 months ago
R6 Sheet Weaver. Get on now. !!!
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7 years 10 months agoColin Dav wrote:Adams wrote:
Race 3: Angelic, Goede Hoop and Man Eater need to show some improvement – Man Eater looks bred for sprints. If there is no improvement from any of them, then Generoso (Currently shows no recent form) or Purdey could have a say.
Adams just a heads up, Man eater has got Giants causeway in her blood, that suggests she's looking for this trip if not further
Thanks for that --- I didn't get into the full pedigree, but thought there would be that somewhere in the blood - since they trying it at the trip.
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7 years 10 months agoFrodo wrote:Adams wrote:pirates wrote:PLEASE EXPLAIN HOW ORO NEGRO HAS a chance on handicaping in race 5?Adams wrote: Not so sure about the formula's --- There are a couple of handicapping rules that apply wherever one is and are actually quite simple.
(1) Horse must have demonstrated sufficient class to be nominated in today's race.
(2) Horse should be fast enough to compete with the field,
(3) Horse should be fit
That's about all involved in my handicapping ----if that amounts to formula's
Persist with the horse at 1400m and 1600m, First time out over longer 1800 , horse has never been backed at anything less than 66/1 , but starts at 5/1 and wins going away. Today has a very low weight , and would not surprise me to see it in the placings over 2000m. Ordinarily trainers might push their maiden winner into a weak handicap if it was still in shape , and use stronger races to bring the horse back into shape if it wasn't. In this horses case there doesn't seem to be any need to stay under the radar in a high level handicap, since it's already had two very poor subsequent runs. On the other hand this might just be poor training, given the 1.9% strike rate of the stable - which is hard to believe since they got that 1800m race spot on. Hence i give it a chance, it could also flop hopelessly of course.
The only scenario where Oro Negro (1 win and 0 places out of 16 runs and 10 kgs out at the weights) would have even a remote chance, would be if experienced jocks like Strydom gets the pace totally wrong - not too much chance of that happening imo
I won't dispute that, just giving a chance since I like to look for spooks - would I back this horse to win , or even place --- absolutely not.
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7 years 10 months agoColin Dav wrote: Parisienne Chic well in at the weights on a line through Tambalang
That's me done for the day
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7 years 10 months agoColin Dav wrote: Parisienne Chic well in at the weights on a line through Tambalang
Well Played great ride by S. Brown - Doubled up in the PA - Keep it Up
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7 years 10 months agoColin Dav wrote: Parisienne Chic well in at the weights on a line through Tambalang
well found
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