NHRA another failure by the guildline kings.

www.timeslive.co.za/news/south-africa/20...-tying-of-racehorse/

So who does check if the proper carded equipment is being used?

As far as I am aware tongue-ties on the race course are fitted and/or checked by the NHA vet. The article concerning the NSPCA seems to refer to a rural race meeting - not quite sure therefore why their complaint would be with the NHA? Guess we need more facts??

And so it rears its ugly head again!!!. The horse comes first say everyone!!!!! Yeah right. Bush racing administered by whoever whenever should be canned end of story. And this report claims the owner and trainer involved. Shame on them. They should be named. It's no different to administering banned substances. Name them and ban them period.

Glad to see that at least one member puts the welfare of the horse first. With all the bluster and the name calling whenever I have a go at Kimberley, its all about the abuse of horses for me. I dont care who you are, what you religion, race or creed ( and heritage for some who like diverting attention ), if you use horses for your own means and to their detriment, you do not belong in racing.

End of.

I must say that if the NHRA have ensured the second career forms are correctly filled, then you can not blame them for what happens afterwards. My question is how do horses that are still registered as in training land up in bush racing? I think the answer is the NHRA are not doing what they should be.

Over the Air wrote: Glad to see that at least one member puts the welfare of the horse first. With all the bluster and the name calling whenever I have a go at Kimberley, its all about the abuse of horses for me. I dont care who you are, what you religion, race or creed ( and heritage for some who like diverting attention ), if you use horses for your own means and to their detriment, you do not belong in racing.

End of.

I am always hesitant to get involved in a discussion where ALL the facts are not known, but surely (to quote) ''if you use horses for your own means and to their detriment, you do no belong in racing' - would mean that none of us 'belong' in racing ?

Again, this blind hatred of NHA rears its ugly head.
Here are some simple FACTS -
1)NHA have NOTHING to do with informal or bush Racing.
2)NHA do not have ANY say on informal/bush Racing. This means that they are NOT ALLOWED to get involved at all.
3)When NHA do attend these meetings, it is for the sole purpose of trying to follow up on any ex racehorses or to check if any horses are participating there, whilst still racing or being registered for racing. In so doing, they are protecting the interests of all in racing.
4)In the case of any cruelty to horses at these meetings which are observed by NHA , they can only report to SPCA.
5)NHA do not attend all of these meetings.
6)As for participation in these meetings by Racing people, it is prohibited. Please read rule 72.1.24

Whatever charges SPCA are alluding to, it would be good if they got on with it, with facts.

Finally, the main problem appears to lie in the 5th or 6th home that the ex racehorse has, after being properly retired to a good home. How do u police that ?

Hi Louis

I am all for getting facts straight. Your points 1 and 2 seem to contradict your point 3. Its a bit like being pregnant, you are or you aren't no ifs and maybes. Taken from the SP relating to Bush racing recently:

The National Horseracing Authority confirms that its Officials attended an unauthorised “informal bush race meeting” near Lephalale on Saturday 27 April 2019.

It was established after serious confrontation, that several of the horses that participated were horses currently registered under the Rules of the National Horseracing Authority and that their participation was in contravention of Rule 93.2.1.

The serious confrontation may be a pointer?

Seriously while I respect others point of view I am shocked at what's being posted here. Animals being abused and everyone finding a reason to defend certain parties. Shame on you . Animal cruelty is against the law period. These meetings need to be stopped end of story and people named shamed and charged. You can paint it any way you want its WRONG. Just my opinion of course.

Miss T I agree with you that animal cruelty is reprehensible, irrespective of which animal we are talking about. But, lets get real, the SA Horseracing Industry, together with the NHA, are ONLY responsible for the PROFESSIONAL horse racing industry - no more no less - we, including the Operators, cannot be held accountable for what happens beyond the professional horse racing's borders! If there are indeed NHA licensed owners, trainers or jockeys found guilty of transgressing the rules in regard to "amateur/bush" racing they must be harshly dealt with. But we cannot be viewed as the moral conscience of all Equine activities.

Miss T, you obviously have no idea about how I treat my horses and my stance with regard to any form of cruelty to horses and any other animals. Pity. It's also a pity that you misunderstood the facts of my post, which addressed the title of the thread, which blames NHA again. By stating those facts, I in no way endorse Bush Racing.

Steve, you contradict yourself, actually. The very confrontation to which you refer is proof in itself that NHA are not welcome at these meetings nor have any say in them.

Why dont we wait for the whole investigation of NHA to be completed and then see who, if anyone, was involved in that Bush meeting ?

In the meantime, maybe the two of you can get hold of SAP and Govt to protest against Bush Racing and get this cruelty stopped. Many of us will support you fully. You are pointing fingers at NHA, from your keyboards. Maybe you can help or guide us with some action ? Maybe find out where the next Bush meeting will be held ?