Possible Summer Cup Final Field
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5 years 9 months agoFrodo wrote:Mac wrote: Do I understand, or do I misunderstand, that Soqrat is NOT running?
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Is that a trick question

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5 years 9 months ago - 5 years 9 months ago
Soqrat being declared a runner meant quite a few changes from the Ante-Post betting - only Camphoratus :huh: (and Soqrat of course) are now trading at shorter odds than quoted at Ante-Post :ohmy: Infamous Fox, Divine Odyssey and (surprisingly Green Haze ?) are available at the same odds .....
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Re: Re:Possible Summer Cup Final Field
5 years 9 months ago
Mac Soqrat has been declared, even though the stable said otherwise
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5 years 9 months ago
I would not be surprised to hear that Lyle Hewitson comes over to ride Zillzaal but who knows
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5 years 9 months ago
Racing in this country is a joke.
The biggest stable in the country makes it public knowledge that they will not run a horse in the province's premier race. Then all of a sudden decides that they will run the horse.
Problems.
1. Said horse is the ruling favourite, and one of the country's highest rates horses, not just some field filler. Statements like these should've been subject to even more than the usual level of prudence when being made. Imagine if the late Sir Henry Cecil made a statement like this about Frankel and then suddenly went against that after. Surely that would be market manipulation.
2. F the people that actually listen to them and take ante post bets accordingly.
3. Why the hell make a statement if you are not 100% sure, as Frodo pointed out earlier. Rather say nothing.
I'm done.
The biggest stable in the country makes it public knowledge that they will not run a horse in the province's premier race. Then all of a sudden decides that they will run the horse.
Problems.
1. Said horse is the ruling favourite, and one of the country's highest rates horses, not just some field filler. Statements like these should've been subject to even more than the usual level of prudence when being made. Imagine if the late Sir Henry Cecil made a statement like this about Frankel and then suddenly went against that after. Surely that would be market manipulation.
2. F the people that actually listen to them and take ante post bets accordingly.
3. Why the hell make a statement if you are not 100% sure, as Frodo pointed out earlier. Rather say nothing.
I'm done.
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5 years 9 months ago
Is this not the 2nd time this has happened? Was there not an issue like this just a couple of months ago for the Durban July, when Hawwaam was at the top of the ante post boards and then suddenly doubled in price when something was said?
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Re: Re:Possible Summer Cup Final Field
5 years 9 months ago
On a side note, Mdk could very possibly fill the quartet....
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Re: Re:Possible Summer Cup Final Field
5 years 9 months ago
Ante post markets are all about speculation.
MDK has to make the best call at the time looking at various options with his normal talented string.
This year has been exception and has caused a bit havoc between punters and bookies.
We all know the rules as far as ante post markets and have to accept the ups and downs, we live to fight another day.
Remember its your call.
Good Punting
MDK has to make the best call at the time looking at various options with his normal talented string.
This year has been exception and has caused a bit havoc between punters and bookies.
We all know the rules as far as ante post markets and have to accept the ups and downs, we live to fight another day.
Remember its your call.
Good Punting
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5 years 9 months ago - 5 years 9 months ago
All jockeys declared now. Cole Dicken gets a mount after a successful last two months or so.
No. N Dr Horse Weight MR Trainer Jockey
1 14 Soqrat (AUS) 60 133 Mike de Kock A Marcus
2 8 Barahin 59 131 Mike de Kock B Fayd'Herbe
3 12 Infamous Fox (AUS) 53.5 119 Candice Dawson M Byleveld
4 17 Camphoratus 53 118 R A Hill/S R Hill M Khan
5 3 Tilbury Fort 53 118 Sean Tarry R Danielson
6 4 Cascapedia (IRE) 52.5 117 Mike de Kock C Zackey
7 9 Divine Odyssey 52.5 117 J A Janse van Vuuren C Maujean
8 13 Atyaab (AUS) 52 117 Mike de Kock M Yeni
9 18 Dawn Assault 52 116 St John Gray K Zechner
10 7 Marchingontogether 52 116 Gavin van Zyl W Kennedy
11 5 Roy Had Enough (AUS) 52 116 Frank Robinson M V'Rensburg
12 15 Zillzaal 52 114 Sean Tarry *D Schwarz
13 20 Insignis 52 112 Geoff Woodruff *C F Dicken
14 10 Queen Supreme (IRE) 52 110 Mike de Kock C Murray
15 11 Green Haze 52 107 Alec Laird R Munger
16 1 Shenanigans 52 107 Sean Tarry G Cheyne
17 19 Bize 52 106 Alec Laird S Khumalo
18 6 Flying Winger 52 105 Alec Laird M Mjoka
19 16 Sunshine Silk 52 105 Geoff Woodruff *N Klink
20 2 Al Mutawakel 52 103 Sean Tarry *L J Ferraris
No. N Dr Horse Weight MR Trainer Jockey
1 14 Soqrat (AUS) 60 133 Mike de Kock A Marcus
2 8 Barahin 59 131 Mike de Kock B Fayd'Herbe
3 12 Infamous Fox (AUS) 53.5 119 Candice Dawson M Byleveld
4 17 Camphoratus 53 118 R A Hill/S R Hill M Khan
5 3 Tilbury Fort 53 118 Sean Tarry R Danielson
6 4 Cascapedia (IRE) 52.5 117 Mike de Kock C Zackey
7 9 Divine Odyssey 52.5 117 J A Janse van Vuuren C Maujean
8 13 Atyaab (AUS) 52 117 Mike de Kock M Yeni
9 18 Dawn Assault 52 116 St John Gray K Zechner
10 7 Marchingontogether 52 116 Gavin van Zyl W Kennedy
11 5 Roy Had Enough (AUS) 52 116 Frank Robinson M V'Rensburg
12 15 Zillzaal 52 114 Sean Tarry *D Schwarz
13 20 Insignis 52 112 Geoff Woodruff *C F Dicken
14 10 Queen Supreme (IRE) 52 110 Mike de Kock C Murray
15 11 Green Haze 52 107 Alec Laird R Munger
16 1 Shenanigans 52 107 Sean Tarry G Cheyne
17 19 Bize 52 106 Alec Laird S Khumalo
18 6 Flying Winger 52 105 Alec Laird M Mjoka
19 16 Sunshine Silk 52 105 Geoff Woodruff *N Klink
20 2 Al Mutawakel 52 103 Sean Tarry *L J Ferraris
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Re: Re:Possible Summer Cup Final Field
5 years 9 months ago
This race needs to be downgraded it has been years since a proper Grade 1 level field has faced the starter. The absence of Cape horses makes this but a top division handicap outside of the top 2.
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Re: Re:Possible Summer Cup Final Field
5 years 9 months ago
Delighted for the young riders getting a chance
But imo shows you that our jock stock is depleted
But imo shows you that our jock stock is depleted
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