The Vaal Thursday 6 Aug

Pirhobeta wrote: I'll be watching King Of The Delta to post...the trainer has been having a good run and LF is riding well...in general
Not striding out as well as I would have liked...

Lord Grantham...EW
box sw with Persica and KotD

Pirhobeta wrote:

Pirhobeta wrote: I'll be watching King Of The Delta to post...the trainer has been having a good run and LF is riding well...in general
Not striding out as well as I would have liked...

Lord Grantham...EW
box sw with Persica and KotD

he would have been extremely unlucky to lose...was hampered twice

Pirhobeta wrote:

biscuit wrote: Felt like that many a time.
My unasked for advise or what worked for me is this, stop playing perms.
Be more selective with your single win bets.
it works

Biscuit...I tend to agree with you...but there is little money unless you bet large...
I have no idea how you guys select a P6...because clearly...using form...only works some times...
I like to select to post, because I feel that I can see the horse's well-being...
Otherwise...I've seen a stable have a poor meeting, when by all accounts their horses should be winning...but their horses normally show it to post...

Pirhobeta wrote:

Pirhobeta wrote:

biscuit wrote: Felt like that many a time.
My unasked for advise or what worked for me is this, stop playing perms.
Be more selective with your single win bets.
it works

Biscuit...I tend to agree with you...but there is little money unless you bet large...
I have no idea how you guys select a P6...because clearly...using form...only works some times...
I like to select to post, because I feel that I can see the horse's well-being...
Otherwise...I've seen a stable have a poor meeting, when by all accounts their horses should be winning...but their horses normally show it to post...

the last race was a case in point...my pre-race selection was King of the Delta...it hardly lifted its front legs to post...by contrast...Lord Grantham went down like a machine...but the fact that there was no money threw me off a bit...
bottom line...I would not have had it in any P6 that I would have chosen today...unless I had the Field...which is pretty unlikely...:huh:

biscuit wrote: Got you key word went down like a machine = 100wins = 2300 profit.
You can make money on selective singles by using perm money.
If you played perms there would be nothing left to put on a machine like trotter

Frodo wrote: My take on the Vaal today - agreed the 2nd, 3rd and 4th look done and dusted for the favorites ...

R5: Could be a bit if a surprise here - Wonderful Rock not guaranteed to stay the extra 200 - Watching Closely needs to reproduce her last effort - for me I know Miss Cap Mala is very moderate, but at 10s I think she represents the each-way value with Nabeela her biggest challenger

R6: An extremely closely matched field of fillies and mares; Rabia the Rebel boasts a win and a 2nd over this track and trip and I will definitely include her in all bets; Franklin improved over ground last time and can't be ignored - but would not like to be caught short in the exotics here

R7: Another difficult race to predict; anything possible

R8: Smaller field at least - also fancied Ring of Fire, but the value is gone; Isphan should be right there with the other Peter runners

R9: Unfortunately not an easy close - a roughie that if returning to his best could blow every one away in the last leg of the P6, is Brightnumberten, while Lord Grantham now gets a run and also looks way over-priced at the weights - also getting another 1.5 kgs off courtesy of the apprentice; Touch of Fate best over the minimum trip and another who imo provide value at big odds

Very tough racing the last 5 races - so although it should be a 5-legged P6, I think it will still pay very well

Enjoy

Not too bad pity about that Peters bomb in the first leg of the P6

Frodo wrote:

Frodo wrote: My take on the Vaal today - agreed the 2nd, 3rd and 4th look done and dusted for the favorites ...

R5: Could be a bit if a surprise here - Wonderful Rock not guaranteed to stay the extra 200 - Watching Closely needs to reproduce her last effort - for me I know Miss Cap Mala is very moderate, but at 10s I think she represents the each-way value with Nabeela her biggest challenger

R6: An extremely closely matched field of fillies and mares; Rabia the Rebel boasts a win and a 2nd over this track and trip and I will definitely include her in all bets; Franklin improved over ground last time and can't be ignored - but would not like to be caught short in the exotics here

R7: Another difficult race to predict; anything possible

R8: Smaller field at least - also fancied Ring of Fire, but the value is gone; Isphan should be right there with the other Peter runners

R9: Unfortunately not an easy close - a roughie that if returning to his best could blow every one away in the last leg of the P6, is Brightnumberten, while Lord Grantham now gets a run and also looks way over-priced at the weights - also getting another 1.5 kgs off courtesy of the apprentice; Touch of Fate best over the minimum trip and another who imo provide value at big odds

Very tough racing the last 5 races - so although it should be a 5-legged P6, I think it will still pay very well

Enjoy

Not too bad pity about that Peters bomb in the first leg of the P6