USA next President Donald or Joe?
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Lionel must work for Breitbart as they peddle right wing falsehoods all the time.
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Trump supporters watch and weep and then get up and go to the mirror and give yourself a smack in the chops supporting this sad person.
had enough yet, ok heres more from this mornings interview if you believe him then give yourself a punch in the balls as that may help remove the brain washing that you have subjected yourselves too
President Donald Trump on Sunday spoke with Fox News anchor Maria Bartiromo -- his first TV interview since the election. The conversation was riddled with lies and conspiracy theories.
Bartiromo opened the interview with a question about election fraud, telling Trump, "The facts are on your side." Trump responded, falsey saying, "This election was a fraud; it was a rigged election." The Fox anchor then reflected the president's anger, saying, "This is disgusting and we cannot allow America's election to be corrupted."
The interview highlighted that Trump is "unable or unwilling to accept reality," CNN's Chief Media Correspondent Brian Stelter said on "Reliable Sources" Sunday.
Trump spewed misinformation throughout the conversation.
"We had glitches where they moved thousands of votes from my account to Biden's account," Trump falsely told Bartiromo as he continued to bash mail-in voting and incorrectly claimed "dead people were applying to get a ballot."
In addition to Trump's unwillingness to acknowledge Joe Biden won the election, Bartiromo's unchallenged acceptance of Trump's false narrative also presents a danger to American democracy, said CNN's Senior Media Reporter Oliver Darcy on "Reliable Sources."
"News organizations — and I think Fox claims to be one — have a responsibility," Darcy said. "The president of the United States is trying to overturn the election. ...Frankly, there is not much daylight between Maria and [Infowars conspiracy theorist] Alex Jones."
Bartiromo's journalism career goes back more than 25 years. She created a name for herself when she launched CNBC's morning show "Squawk Box" and anchored "The Closing Bell with Maria Bartiromo" and "On the Money with Maria Bartiromo." In 1995, she made history as the first reporter to broadcast live from the floor of the New York Stock Exchange.
But much of the media world has shifted its perspective on her after she went to Fox News.
"Maria Bartiromo, once a feared and acclaimed journalist, best known for working the floor of the New York Stock Exchange, forcing CEOs to tell the truth, now sits behind a desk and invites the president to lie and lie and lie," Stelter said.
Trump's disinformation campaign about the election is less a cohesive strategy and more about throwing spaghetti at the wall in the hope that something sticks, said Jonathan Rauch, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution said,
"What he's running right now is a classic Russian-style disinformation campaign," Rauch said.
He added that Trump's intention is to "flood the zone" and "confuse people" by pushing out conspiracy theories, lies and half-truths.
The fact that his conspiracy theories have gained so much traction shows that Trump's strategy has been effective at gaining support from Republicans -- if not for overturning the election result. When it comes to Trump's skills in this area, Rauch said, "I think he's better than Putin."
Rauch added that President-elect Joe Biden has done a good job of "not rising to the bait of every single conspiracy that's thrown out there."
Sunday's interview came after a long streak of silence for Trump. People who work closely with the president have avoided answering questions about the election, avoiding questions about the president's efforts to overturn the election.
had enough yet, ok heres more from this mornings interview if you believe him then give yourself a punch in the balls as that may help remove the brain washing that you have subjected yourselves too
President Donald Trump on Sunday spoke with Fox News anchor Maria Bartiromo -- his first TV interview since the election. The conversation was riddled with lies and conspiracy theories.
Bartiromo opened the interview with a question about election fraud, telling Trump, "The facts are on your side." Trump responded, falsey saying, "This election was a fraud; it was a rigged election." The Fox anchor then reflected the president's anger, saying, "This is disgusting and we cannot allow America's election to be corrupted."
The interview highlighted that Trump is "unable or unwilling to accept reality," CNN's Chief Media Correspondent Brian Stelter said on "Reliable Sources" Sunday.
Trump spewed misinformation throughout the conversation.
"We had glitches where they moved thousands of votes from my account to Biden's account," Trump falsely told Bartiromo as he continued to bash mail-in voting and incorrectly claimed "dead people were applying to get a ballot."
In addition to Trump's unwillingness to acknowledge Joe Biden won the election, Bartiromo's unchallenged acceptance of Trump's false narrative also presents a danger to American democracy, said CNN's Senior Media Reporter Oliver Darcy on "Reliable Sources."
"News organizations — and I think Fox claims to be one — have a responsibility," Darcy said. "The president of the United States is trying to overturn the election. ...Frankly, there is not much daylight between Maria and [Infowars conspiracy theorist] Alex Jones."
Bartiromo's journalism career goes back more than 25 years. She created a name for herself when she launched CNBC's morning show "Squawk Box" and anchored "The Closing Bell with Maria Bartiromo" and "On the Money with Maria Bartiromo." In 1995, she made history as the first reporter to broadcast live from the floor of the New York Stock Exchange.
But much of the media world has shifted its perspective on her after she went to Fox News.
"Maria Bartiromo, once a feared and acclaimed journalist, best known for working the floor of the New York Stock Exchange, forcing CEOs to tell the truth, now sits behind a desk and invites the president to lie and lie and lie," Stelter said.
Trump's disinformation campaign about the election is less a cohesive strategy and more about throwing spaghetti at the wall in the hope that something sticks, said Jonathan Rauch, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution said,
"What he's running right now is a classic Russian-style disinformation campaign," Rauch said.
He added that Trump's intention is to "flood the zone" and "confuse people" by pushing out conspiracy theories, lies and half-truths.
The fact that his conspiracy theories have gained so much traction shows that Trump's strategy has been effective at gaining support from Republicans -- if not for overturning the election result. When it comes to Trump's skills in this area, Rauch said, "I think he's better than Putin."
Rauch added that President-elect Joe Biden has done a good job of "not rising to the bait of every single conspiracy that's thrown out there."
Sunday's interview came after a long streak of silence for Trump. People who work closely with the president have avoided answering questions about the election, avoiding questions about the president's efforts to overturn the election.
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4 years 6 months ago
If Trump really had a good shot of overturning the outcome of this election, why not employ the same legal team that represented him in the Impeachment hearing viz. Jay Sekulow, Pat Cipollone, etc. They obviously don't want to ruin their reputations. Rather give to to has-been, Rudy Giulliani, who is making an even bigger prat of himself, and upstarts, Jena Ellis, queen of misinformation, and former team member, Sidney Powell, who's outlandish allegations were too much for the Trump legal challenge, "she is practicing on her own and not representing Trump" :-
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This tv host doesn't like what Alan Dershowitz (also part of the Trump impeachment legal team) is telling her, try as she may, he is just not buying (it) :-
Would be interested to hear what the ABC Trump supporters think.
Would be interested to hear what the ABC Trump supporters think.
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CnC partially wrote Bartiromo's journalism career goes back more than 25 years. She created a name for herself when she launched CNBC's morning show "Squawk Box" and anchored "The Closing Bell with Maria Bartiromo" and "On the Money with Maria Bartiromo." In 1995, she made history as the first reporter to broadcast live from the floor of the New York Stock Exchange.
But much of the media world has shifted its perspective on her after she went to Fox News.
"Maria Bartiromo, once a feared and acclaimed journalist, best known for working the floor of the New York Stock Exchange, forcing CEOs to tell the truth, now sits behind a desk and invites the president to lie and lie and lie," Stelter said.
Trump's disinformation campaign about the election is less a cohesive strategy and more about throwing spaghetti at the wall in the hope that something sticks, said Jonathan Rauch, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution said,
"What he's running right now is a classic Russian-style disinformation campaign," Rauch said.
He added that Trump's intention is to "flood the zone" and "confuse people" by pushing out conspiracy theories, lies and half-truths.
The fact that his conspiracy theories have gained so much traction shows that Trump's strategy has been effective at gaining support from Republicans -- if not for overturning the election result. When it comes to Trump's skills in this area, Rauch said, "I think he's better than Putin."
Rauch added that President-elect Joe Biden has done a good job of "not rising to the bait of every single conspiracy that's thrown out there."
So this person is totally acceptable for 25 years until it's an interview with Trump and then it's all lies. OK
@Bayern. After listening to the interview I have the following opinions
Let's see what the vote is today regarding the electro college reps.
I still don't understand why the Biden camp believe that he has no right to contest this election and if there is proven to be voter fraud or manipulation in any state even if it doest prove enough to overturn the election, but makes the resulting count less in Biden favor will the people that say he is lying accept that perhaps there is truth in what he is saying
If not then I will be the first to acknowledge that.
For 4 years the Dems have screamed manipulation at every opportunity and CNN and Stelter have lead the charge and there is still no proof but the Democratic supporters didnt hesitate to continue with the unproven conspiracy and lies. again if it is proven I will be the first to acknowledge this.
But much of the media world has shifted its perspective on her after she went to Fox News.
"Maria Bartiromo, once a feared and acclaimed journalist, best known for working the floor of the New York Stock Exchange, forcing CEOs to tell the truth, now sits behind a desk and invites the president to lie and lie and lie," Stelter said.
Trump's disinformation campaign about the election is less a cohesive strategy and more about throwing spaghetti at the wall in the hope that something sticks, said Jonathan Rauch, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution said,
"What he's running right now is a classic Russian-style disinformation campaign," Rauch said.
He added that Trump's intention is to "flood the zone" and "confuse people" by pushing out conspiracy theories, lies and half-truths.
The fact that his conspiracy theories have gained so much traction shows that Trump's strategy has been effective at gaining support from Republicans -- if not for overturning the election result. When it comes to Trump's skills in this area, Rauch said, "I think he's better than Putin."
Rauch added that President-elect Joe Biden has done a good job of "not rising to the bait of every single conspiracy that's thrown out there."
So this person is totally acceptable for 25 years until it's an interview with Trump and then it's all lies. OK
@Bayern. After listening to the interview I have the following opinions
Let's see what the vote is today regarding the electro college reps.
I still don't understand why the Biden camp believe that he has no right to contest this election and if there is proven to be voter fraud or manipulation in any state even if it doest prove enough to overturn the election, but makes the resulting count less in Biden favor will the people that say he is lying accept that perhaps there is truth in what he is saying
If not then I will be the first to acknowledge that.
For 4 years the Dems have screamed manipulation at every opportunity and CNN and Stelter have lead the charge and there is still no proof but the Democratic supporters didnt hesitate to continue with the unproven conspiracy and lies. again if it is proven I will be the first to acknowledge this.
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Biden was so nervous of the vote today, he even tripped over his dog whilst pacing the halls , karma has a way of catching up when you a cheater
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@ Monty, if Trump won the States which he is contesting, would there be a need to replace the current electors. The self-same electors who are Republicans are saying there is no evidence of voter fraud. To try and have them outed for new ones after the election makes this look suspect - just my opinion.
Neither Biden or the Dems are saying Trump cannot challenge the results - actually he can within a certain percentage. Where did you read the Biden/the Dems do not want Trump to challenge - if anything Biden has been silent on this. The Courts are dismissing the majority of the suits because there is no evidence of what is being alleged by the people lodging the suits. The allegations are not evidence or proof that something under-hand took place. If you understand this, then you will see how difficult a task the Trump team have ahead of them. These challenges are embarrassing thus far.
Neither Biden or the Dems are saying Trump cannot challenge the results - actually he can within a certain percentage. Where did you read the Biden/the Dems do not want Trump to challenge - if anything Biden has been silent on this. The Courts are dismissing the majority of the suits because there is no evidence of what is being alleged by the people lodging the suits. The allegations are not evidence or proof that something under-hand took place. If you understand this, then you will see how difficult a task the Trump team have ahead of them. These challenges are embarrassing thus far.
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5 people on your street report (through affidavits) that they heard gunshots coming from a house on the same street.
What would you expect the authorities to do? Is it:
a) send in law enforcement to investigate the claims, or
b) ask the 5 people to provide the evidence that a crime has been committed in that house.
What would you expect the authorities to do? Is it:
a) send in law enforcement to investigate the claims, or
b) ask the 5 people to provide the evidence that a crime has been committed in that house.
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4 years 6 months agoLionel wrote: 5 people on your street report (through affidavits) that they heard gunshots coming from a house on the same street.
What would you expect the authorities to do? Is it:
a) send in law enforcement to investigate the claims, or
b) ask the 5 people to provide the evidence that a crime has been committed in that house.
Lionel, your example is not a good one. Discharging a firearm for no apparent reason is a crime - just pointing a fire arm at someone is a crime. Send law enforcement to investigate, no harm in that, and that's what they paid to do. The person alleging a crime took place needs to prove it. Imagine if someone accused me of being involved in the murder of another individual and they convicted and hanged me on that - without the evidence.
Where the Trump supporters are wrong, these allegations are being investigate, be it by way of recount, voter fraud, dead people voting, people from out of State voting - you can add as many allegations as you wish to the list, they need to provide the evidence to a Court of Law, not a court of public opinion.
What America needs to do is establish the truth, elections after this may never be trusted because one side will not accept the outcome of these court hearings.
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