TIPPING’S NOT AS SIMPLE AS IT LOOKS
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Re: TIPPING’S NOT AS SIMPLE AS IT LOOKS
3 years 10 months ago
I completely disagree with Peter D (point 3)
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Dave Scott "why would they sell them"
1st Ill start with LESS IS MORE this seems to be a problem for our South African clients and they pretty much bail on us after 1 month. Saffas want us to tip every race, tip exotics and show a profit. It reminds me of when I was on At The Races and due to programme time's I was "FORCED" to tip and select in races I would never even wager 1 Penny on.
When I launched IRC MEDIA it was with LESS IS MORE in mind. And Guess what for a mere £20 a month you would be up over 500 points this year. This is because I assembled a team that bought into the less is more theory as well as recognising that EVERYONE goes off form at some point. SO by having a cross section of sports advice we are almost always providing someone with a profit most days. Thats because we don't ONLY do horses. We do golf/dogs/F1/Rugby/UK Horses/Aus Horses/ SA Horses/ TV Specials Betting/Greyhounds
SO in theory when one of us is off form the other carries the can and its worked.
Now onto Daves theory. Well from my point of view its quite simple. Most of us in the UK cannot even get on at the moment and not for any serious money anyway. It has become a chore to open up accounts in other peoples names. The latest price for a bet 365 acc is £800 a month and in most instances it lasts 2/3 weeks.
So we switch to a "selling " business. Now with 204 subscribers and growing we can look at "winning" differently and not stress about getting on. Our model says we will be at 1000 subscribers by the end of 2022 and quite frankly that £20k per month will be easier to achieve than trying to win it of "bookmakers" in the UK. Of course some of our clients might ALSO have their accounts closed BUT what we find is that most of them use our selections to BOOST their bank and then do their own thing anyway most days.
What I do agree with is the heading of this thread.
Tipping is Not as Simple as it Looks BUT neither is it the poison and bad business most think it is.
and
Dave Scott "why would they sell them"
1st Ill start with LESS IS MORE this seems to be a problem for our South African clients and they pretty much bail on us after 1 month. Saffas want us to tip every race, tip exotics and show a profit. It reminds me of when I was on At The Races and due to programme time's I was "FORCED" to tip and select in races I would never even wager 1 Penny on.
When I launched IRC MEDIA it was with LESS IS MORE in mind. And Guess what for a mere £20 a month you would be up over 500 points this year. This is because I assembled a team that bought into the less is more theory as well as recognising that EVERYONE goes off form at some point. SO by having a cross section of sports advice we are almost always providing someone with a profit most days. Thats because we don't ONLY do horses. We do golf/dogs/F1/Rugby/UK Horses/Aus Horses/ SA Horses/ TV Specials Betting/Greyhounds
SO in theory when one of us is off form the other carries the can and its worked.
Now onto Daves theory. Well from my point of view its quite simple. Most of us in the UK cannot even get on at the moment and not for any serious money anyway. It has become a chore to open up accounts in other peoples names. The latest price for a bet 365 acc is £800 a month and in most instances it lasts 2/3 weeks.
So we switch to a "selling " business. Now with 204 subscribers and growing we can look at "winning" differently and not stress about getting on. Our model says we will be at 1000 subscribers by the end of 2022 and quite frankly that £20k per month will be easier to achieve than trying to win it of "bookmakers" in the UK. Of course some of our clients might ALSO have their accounts closed BUT what we find is that most of them use our selections to BOOST their bank and then do their own thing anyway most days.
What I do agree with is the heading of this thread.
Tipping is Not as Simple as it Looks BUT neither is it the poison and bad business most think it is.
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- Tony T
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Re: TIPPING’S NOT AS SIMPLE AS IT LOOKS
3 years 10 months ago
What’s the difference between a tipster and a dog?
In about ten years, the dog quits whining.
In about ten years, the dog quits whining.

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Re: TIPPING’S NOT AS SIMPLE AS IT LOOKS
3 years 10 months ago
In reply to Easy's post, the question arises as to what does the client who buys tips get for their money?
If they are not participating in the game of choosing what to bet on, but are just trying to make a profit on following the tips, then they have to consider what else they could do with that money?
Even if there are rare tipsters who can show that their clients have made a profit by following their tips, they need to deduct from that profit the cost of the service.
You then need to compare the outcome for the client with his real alternatives- eg. Putting that same monthly amount into a unit trust fund. After all, he is just looking for a return, not the entertainment of picking winners himself.
I would challenge any tipster of any betting type to demonstrate that his client would be better off over a 5 year period by buying his tips and risking the necessary stake money, than by just putting that money away in a simple investment plan.
If they are not participating in the game of choosing what to bet on, but are just trying to make a profit on following the tips, then they have to consider what else they could do with that money?
Even if there are rare tipsters who can show that their clients have made a profit by following their tips, they need to deduct from that profit the cost of the service.
You then need to compare the outcome for the client with his real alternatives- eg. Putting that same monthly amount into a unit trust fund. After all, he is just looking for a return, not the entertainment of picking winners himself.
I would challenge any tipster of any betting type to demonstrate that his client would be better off over a 5 year period by buying his tips and risking the necessary stake money, than by just putting that money away in a simple investment plan.
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Re: TIPPING’S NOT AS SIMPLE AS IT LOOKS
3 years 10 months ago
Our is £20 a month and after today its nearly 600 points up for the year.
Investing in a plan is different because once you pay in your monthly that is it its gone. Yes you will get a return but really your money does not turn over and over.
Having said that of Course you should buy a house, invest in something, buy shares, start a business. BUT that should not stop you from punting. Also why does a tipster's advice have to be the be all and end all.
Perhaps if you followed us today you would have added Glory Days to the P6.
We backed it outright but perhaps you would have just added it.
So there are many benefits and of course draw backs. What I can say is it does not have to be one or the other.
Investing in a plan is different because once you pay in your monthly that is it its gone. Yes you will get a return but really your money does not turn over and over.
Having said that of Course you should buy a house, invest in something, buy shares, start a business. BUT that should not stop you from punting. Also why does a tipster's advice have to be the be all and end all.
Perhaps if you followed us today you would have added Glory Days to the P6.
We backed it outright but perhaps you would have just added it.
So there are many benefits and of course draw backs. What I can say is it does not have to be one or the other.
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