TIPPING’S NOT AS SIMPLE AS IT LOOKS

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TIPPING’S NOT AS SIMPLE AS IT LOOKS

3 years 10 months ago
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TIPPING’S NOT AS SIMPLE AS IT LOOKS
by Gary Lemke, supplied by GGGaming.bet

One of the easiest things to do as a couch critic or keyboard warrior for that matter, is to always believe that you can do a better job than a racing tipster, writes Gary Lemke for GGGaming.

Horse racing tipping is one of the toughest and thankless tasks in all of sport.
Consider this: in rugby there are three possible results, but in most cases only two as the draw is uncommon. In soccer there are also three possible outcomes, but the draw becomes a much livelier option. And therefore it’s a “three-horse race” as opposed to rugby’s “two-horse race”.
I have found over the years that if one can achieve a 55-60 percent winning ration in soccer you’ll end up in credit.
Now, racing. There are as many as 20 horses in one race.

The Vodacom Durban July had 18 horses go to the start and Kommetdieding won at odds of 10-1. It was a popular selection and there were plenty of happy punters across the land. If they ran the race again tomorrow, I would still have gone for Linebacker and Gotthegreenlight to finish 1st and 2nd and recommended the exacta (1-2). The swinger was the bet of the year. They finished 2nd and 3rd, and those who took swingers would have made a profit.
I know though that my studying of form was just about spot on.

However, there’s no such thing as a racing certainty. There are so many things that can go wrong in a race, like Do It Again was hampered twice in the straight in the July. In every race an element of luck is required, and then there is the jockey to factor in and that the horse itself is made of flesh and blood and might not be feeling 100 percent when it wakes up in the morning. It can’t tell us that.

So, when we tip a horse and it doesn’t run up to expectation, us tipsters get ridiculed. But, run the race tomorrow and the result might be different. Then, tip a winner and the keyboard warrior will say, “any clown can tip a favourite”. Sure, but would you rather have a favourite wins than an outsider who doesn’t win?
There’s a runner at Kenilworth on Saturday that I’m going to be backing and playing a lot of doubles across the card and into next week’s Champions Day meeting. If it loses, I’m going to have to cancel all those Takealot orders.

Gem King is tipped by Computaform to finish second in the fourth race at Kenilworth but I can’t see him losing. He will start favourite, of that there is no doubt and the fact he’s owned by a man who has never been shy to put his money where his mouth is.
However, the manner in which he ran on when second on his debut over the same Kenilworth 1000m made me mark in my notebook, “next time – and then into his three-year-old career”. He’s from the unfashionable stable of Piet Steyn, but remember he and owners Marsh Shirtliff and Bryn Ressell teamed up with the now exported Katak for Steyn.

I just loved the look of his debut and he came from eight lengths back at the 400m mark to go down by half a length. Sure, you can tell me that he’ll be a short-priced favourite and anyone can tip him, but at some stage you need to realise that a tipster does do homework and when they advise you to have a winning bet then they really are trying to help you.

Candice Bass-Robinson, whose stable is sponsored by GGGaming, is still searching for her 100th winner before the end of the season (31st July) but will get over the line before then. She still needs four more winners for the milestone and rates High Moon in race seven at Kenilworth tomorrow as her best bet on the card.
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Re: TIPPING’S NOT AS SIMPLE AS IT LOOKS

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It may be tough being a professional tipster but it certainly isnt thankless considering its presumably a well paid job.
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A piece of psi’s.


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3 years 10 months ago
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Horses can make a fool of all of us 😩
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Goes to show u ........there's NO CERTAINTY IN RACING ! :unsure:
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3 years 10 months ago
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We would all agree that tipping is not easy- as in most forms of gambling, the “house” always wins in aggregate in the long run. The high level of takeout by both the tote and SA bookies exacerbates it.
There are, however, many kinds of tipster. Some examples:
1. Promotional tipsters for gambling companies whose job is to encourage people to bet. The author of this article falls into this category. His employer doesn’t care how well he tips- they just want turnover.
2. Publication tipsters. Their job is to build readership in order to attract advertisers’ revenue . Historically this was print media, now becoming overwhelmingly digital, and proliferation is much easier due to accessible platforms.
3. Tipsters who sell their tips. They get paid by subscription by those who are delusional enough to think that they can make a profit following these tips.
4. Amateur tipsters like those on ABC who have a variety of motivations, such as enjoying exchanging viewpoints; ego/ boasting rights; wishing to promote open an transparent punter info etc.

I have always believed that the attraction of horse playing is the mental challenge of picking winners/making winning bets. Outsourcing the decision making to a tipster thus makes no sense to me. Would I ask someone else to fill in my crossword puzzle ???

I draw a distinction between the supply of useful information and analysis which helps punters save time or which educates and improves ones own decision making, and those who just tip in one of the categories listed above. Many tipsters do try to do a bit of both.
I just wish that the tellytrack continuity announcers would learn that the important 80% of their job is thus not the tipping bit, at which most of them fail miserably.
Nadine does the best job of getting the views of all the trainers for all the horses in PE.
Warren in Durban and Julie in Gauteng are in my view the least helpful.

What is sadly lacking is any consistent, long term reporting of the results of all the professional tipsters. All you get is selective reporting of successes to self- promote.

The most powerful tool in any horse gamblers box is the ability to select which races to bet on and which ones to stay out of. You cannot win in the long run by betting on every race. You do have a chance if you bet when you see value.
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Re: TIPPING’S NOT AS SIMPLE AS IT LOOKS

3 years 10 months ago
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Well said Peter and an excellent summary.

I think the one question that has always concerned me .
Why would a tipster sell his information rather than just Punting himself.
It's obviously to have a free punt (if he does punt, with other punters money).

Where do I sign......

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Great post Peter although you did miss point 5 and they are the after race tipsters aka ARM of which ABC can boast of having a few really good ones who constantly contribute and all free of charge.
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Re: TIPPING’S NOT AS SIMPLE AS IT LOOKS

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I long ago made the decision to stick to set weight races only...yes, I have wavered many times by taking bets in handicaps but I've kept my discipline of late and it has been hugely beneficial to me...

The odds on the preferred selection may not be anywhere near as enticing as in handicaps but a lot more likely to have a winning bet than in a handicap where more than half the field have some chance...

All the best to fellow Clanners...slow and steady wins your own personal race...:)
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Re: TIPPING’S NOT AS SIMPLE AS IT LOOKS

3 years 10 months ago
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Great comments guys, and some good advice in a number of them. How many of us actually play to show a profit? I am not suggesting that any of us play to lose but to what extent does having an afternoons fun and entertainment contribute to your involvement.

I think getting rich from any form of gambling is an illusion or is it a delusion for most people. It also depends a lot on your income. If you are living on below, on or just above the bread line any win is of great value and can make a big difference for a few days, even weeks. The really rich could not care if they won a single ticket pay out on the Pick 6 as it's just funny money to them.

Then it leaves the middle class who loves to have a winning bet for the sake of it as I am sure that none of us have any plans to retire from the game after any sizeable win.

So what motivates your involvement?

I am most definitely in it for the love of the game and the fun of having an occasional winning ticket. It's a wonderful feeling when your selection or selections arrive home and I would also never have an interest in receiving or paying for tips. In share buying there is a saying "Where there is a tip there is a tap" and the same applies to racing.

I would have no fun playing somebody else's selections as its the joy of finding the correct one's that provides me with interest and not the winning. Make no mistake I love a win as much as the next guy but it is not my only driver to taking part.

Have to say that a lot of the fun has gone out of the game for me as I battle with the current handicapping system and don't have the patience or the commitment to spend hours and hours studying form.

We will never get new people involved in any significant numbers if we don't make the journey to a useful level of skill more enjoyable through more entertaining and less punishing formats.

Racing should be and could be a lot more fun for skilled and the uninitiated alike. Until our operators realise the need for fun games, racing will continue to plod along.
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Re: TIPPING’S NOT AS SIMPLE AS IT LOOKS

3 years 10 months ago
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Horse racing like all other sports are at least educated guesses.
That`s why i stopped playing lotto.
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3 years 10 months ago
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CnC 306 wrote: Great post Peter although you did miss point 5 and they are the after race tipsters aka ARM of which ABC can boast of having a few really good ones who constantly contribute and all free of charge.

And they boast a 100% record !!:whistle: :cheer:

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