I give up

Again Fair Brutus draws a shit draw in a feature race. 29 out of 29 in the Hyperion after suffering 14 out of 16 in the Emerald Cup. This is becoming more than coincidence I am afraid.

I feel like throwing the towel in.

FAIR BRUTUS
5 year old ch Gelded
VRef# Date G Div Dist Jockey Kg's (M-R) B A Draw Pos Len. Winner/Second Kg's Time O-bet S-betR185 27 Sep'08 G Emer 1450s G Lerena 56.5 (103) B A 12-14 10 14.75 ALIMONY 52.0 93.49 16/1 50/1
T77 23 Aug'08 G M100 1600m D Habib 60.0 (100) B A 4- 7 3 1.10 AUSSIE'S CAPTAIN 55.0 101.14 12/1 16/1
R1168 31 Jul'08 G M100 1450s D Habib 62.0 (104) B A 6- 7 3 7.00 BRAGGADACIO 60.5 92.96 10/1 18/1
R1141 24 Jul'08 G M100 1000s D Habib 62.0 (104) B A 1- 9 3 4.50 RENEGADE 59.0 59.38 4/1 5/1
R1101 10 Jul'08 G Pinn 1200s D Habib 60.0 (104) A 8- 8 4 5.00 SHOWROOM 54.0 73.03 18/10 28/10
T1069 29 Jun'08 G Pinn 1160m D Habib 60.0 (100) A 2- 9 3 0.75 STRIKE PARADISE 57.0 67.23 6/1 5/1
S873 31 May'08 G GHor 1200m D Habib 56.0 (102) A 15-16 15 13.80 J J THE JET PLANE 60.0 70.08 25/1 45/1
V923 15 May'08 G Pinn 1200m M Khan 60.0 (102) A 1- 7 4 2.00 ESCOBAR 58.5 68.99 4/1 4/1
V764 24 Mar'08 G SSan 1200m M V'Rensburg 58.0 (104) A 8-13 11 11.00 J J THE JET PLANE 53.0 71.86 10/1 16/1
R604 07 Feb'08 G MR91 1000s G Lerena 65.5 (102) A 4- 7 1 1.25 FAIR BRUTUS 65.5 57.17 33/10 4/1
T356 24 Nov'07 S Merc 1160m M V'Rensburg 55.5 (102) A 13-16 16 11.00 SUCCESFUL BIDDER 60.5 69.44 50/1 10/1
t294 03 Nov'07 G GLoo 1000m M V'Rensburg 59.0 (102) A 10-10 3 0.75 BYBLOS 55.5 57.88 10/1 25/1
T220 13 Oct'07 G M104 1000m M V'Rensburg 59.0 (102) A 9-14 9 5.50 FLINTLOCK 57.0 57.49 5/1 11/2
R157 22 Sep'07 G Hamp 1000s M V'Rensburg 56.5 ( 99) A 3-10 1 1.00 FAIR BRUTUS 56.5 58.74 4/1 33/10
R84 30 Aug'07 G M104 1000s M V'Rensburg 57.5 ( 99) A 1- 8 2 1.25 NARC 61.0 59.18 3/1 11/2
R1251 26 Jul'07 G MR93 1400s K Derere 63.0 (101) A 11-12 11 15.30 WORLDWIDE 59.0 89.24 8/1 8/1
T1006 05 May'07 G CSpr 1000m M V'Rensburg 56.5 (101) A 11-15 14 13.25 MYTHICAL FLIGHT 56.5 57.27 14/1 40/1
N916 08 Apr'07 G Mwar 1100m M V'Rensburg 59.0 (101) A 4- 5 1 0.75 FAIR BRUTUS 59.0 64.36 22/10 3/1
N872 24 Mar'07 G Ssan 1200m M V'Rensburg 50.0 ( 92) A 4-15 1 0.10 FAIR BRUTUS 50.0 70.59 14/1 10/1
R810 08 Mar'07 G MR93 1200s M V'Rensburg 56.0 ( 94) A 7- 8 2 0.50 NARC 59.0 71.48 18/10 4/1
N758 24 Feb'07 G THot 1000m M V'Rensburg 50.5 ( 92) A 10-15 6 1.80 MOCHA JAVA 54.0 57.02 10/1 16/1
V690 08 Feb'07 G M104 1200m M V'Rensburg 50.0 ( 94) A 3- 4 4 4.00 SUPER PROFIT 50.5 69.07 18/10 15/10
R561 04 Jan'07 G MR93 1200s R Danielson 52.0 ( 88) A 7- 7 1 0.25 FAIR BRUTUS 52.0 70.35 9/10 8/10
T487 16 Dec'06 G Prgm 1160m M Khan 58.0 ( 88) A 3- 5 2 0.10 REBEL KING 58.0 67.35 10/1 10/1
t350 11 Nov'06 G Prgm 1400m G Lerena 56.0 ( 88) A 7-12 7 12.00 DIVINE JURY 56.0 86.98 5/1 8/1
R243 19 Oct'06 G Grdm 1000s M V'Rensburg 57.0 ( 84) A 11-11 1 1.00 FAIR BRUTUS 57.0 59.10 5/2 18/10
R160 24 Sep'06 G NM79 1000s M V'Rensburg 52.0 ( 80) A 10-10 1 1.25 FAIR BRUTUS 52.0 58.73 7/1 5/1
R1267 13 Jul'06 G Mdnm 1000s M V'Rensburg 55.0 ( 0) A 10-12 1 1.75 FAIR BRUTUS 55.0 61.28 5/1 8/1

Ja Im with you there G mate..its funny that the same stables always get the good draws.

You are experiencing a syndrome that a psychiatrist I used to work with at a probation camp for mentally disturbed juvenile delinquents coined "progressive turdification."

Without boring you with the details, suffice it to say his theory went something like this: when things start turning to shit, they eventually spin out of control."

I have applied my understanding of this cosmic phenomena in my racing stable to the extent when things start going bad and seem unable to be arrested, I cut the animal in question from the stable.

Same applies on the human side of the coin to trainers!!!

There are at least three ways to combat your specific situation:

1. Complain.

2. Walk into the racing officials office with a pistol stuck in your belt so that it is visible and speak calmly to the men in charge.

3. Engage in a specific act with a mutually consenting adult, hopefully of the opposite sex, that is not within the normal confines of the same socio-economic level in hopes of ridding yourself of the black magic that is responsible for these lousy draws!

I suggest going for the first option, as the other two are actionable and could land you behind bars.

Lol Barry

Complaining doesn't work. Have tried all 3 suggestions previously but no good. Stable had 3 nominations for the meeting and 3 bad draws. This has been ongoing for the last couple of months and we have been carefully documenting it for reference.

There's only so many times you can kick a dog before it turns on you or removes itself.

Hee hee well said BI!!

For the draw, to they draw pills from a container or do they use a random calculator?

No they pick their friends horses first and then who knows what they do for the high draws

we`ve not even done our brains yet and your looking for excuses

No excuses Robert, just won't run.

Been looking at the stats on Turbin over the last couple of months
3 Aug 23 out of 33
23 Aug 19 out of 28
14 Sep 41 out of 57
18 Sep 23 out of 36
5 Oct 40 out of 49

Carmen does not look much better
12 Aug 19 out of 38
30 Aug 25 out of 31
11 Sep 31 out of 41
20 Sep 6 out of 58 (Eliminated !!!!)
25 Sep 41 out of 46
27 Sep 2 out of 25 At last ! Guess what, her protective bandage came off in running and she cut into herself, stopping to a halt !!!!

2 problems I see. First programming is up to shit with insufficient maidens and novice races. Secondly, the draw which is vital on the Turf inside track and the Vaal Sand track.

Well Fcuk me, it looks like "don't run the horse from that draw" sounds just like "Go ahead and run from the worst possible draw I don't care if he runs at the arse of the field".

On the bright side Robert, another chance to do your brains.

Cat

Sometimes people listen and sometimes they don't but there are more important things in life than horses for instance if I were to write a very long rambling sentence and then forget to punctuate it you might get very upset with me in fact more upset than if your horses inexplicably and statiscally improbably continued to draw in the shithouse and everyone said so what it also happens to me all the time and even though I complain it continues unabated and then to cap it all when you indicate to the trainer who should know better not to run they cock you a deafie and nominate anyway starting from the football stadium next door and not declaring blinkers but life goes on and fortunately I will be in Seoul when the shit hits the fan and the trainer again wants to complain that the draw cost us big time and if the horse had got a better draw it would have shat in suffice to say that I will not be there to console him.

And lemember Maak, two Wongs don't make a Whyte.