Hollywoodbets Greyville Saturday 13 May - WSB 1900

I believe Peter Muscutt got it right at the end when he said 'in reality it is a very competitive race'

Imo, I think Aragosta could be the right one; then we have Winchester Mansion who has Rascallion stone cold at the weights, however there is also form to suggest that One Way Traffic could get the better of WM - but they both are coming off a break - listening to the trainers it would seem that WM is probably 'more ready' than OWT - then we have Flying Bull who at the weights will make them all run on a line through OWT (and he has had recent run); Pacaya and Quasiforsure both have stamina doubts imo, especially if the expected fast pace materialises; so not easy - and unfortunately the rest of the P6 looks equally competitive - I expect a bumper payout :dry:

Winchester Mansion is a serious runner tomorrow. Rested and gelded. Will be flying. Have run in the top 3 every time after the rest. Backed it e/w for the July.
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I am a Quasiforsure fan has I backed it at any odds when it won its maiden on debut.

Quasiforsure third dam, Riding Light, is also the dam of Kommetdieding. Its second dam, Shiver My Timbers, has produced Pirates Gold and Super Excited who ran 4th in the SA Classic and also was in the Daily News last year. Its dam, Surefire, has produced 3 foals. Key Element its last foal ran second to Soldiers Eye in its second start over 1600m and is still a juvenile. It could get the 1900m in my opinion.

Pacaya's dam Ash Cloud won the Oaks and is from the family of Arcole, all stayers.

The jury is out still on both them if they stay.

Winchester Mansion as you mentioned at the weights must be included. I like it but its by Trippi also stamina doubts like Pacaya who is also by Trippi. Spectrum was a flop as a sire here but has produced many winners as a broodmare sire. This horse on the dam side is from the family of Rodoille, Sand and Sea, Blue Tiger, etc and all of them were sprinters.

I do not always take the breeding of a horse into account - reason being that there are exceptions to every rule - even though Winchester Mansion is by Trippi, he clearly gets at least 1800 (let's say that the time he won over 2400, was due to the Cape Crawl - I don't know ) Pacaya on the other hand had every chance both times he went 1800 - and did no go through with it at the end - yes he may be better as a 4yr-old - or he may simply be at best over 1600 - despite his female line of stayers; as far as Quasiforsure goes, the fact that he has Shiver My Timbers (by Cordoba - mostly known for producing sprinters) in his pedigree, makes him doubtful (in my book anyway) to see out the 1900 - but we will see tomorrow

Indlamu seldom runs a bad race and at 40/1 & 7.5/1 a place , this could be some value

The WSB 1900, can someone post the race conditions if possible. Without knowing what these are, FOR ME, the weights are extremely puzzling - some horses look well in because of the weight they carrying, but could still be under sufferance in terms of the race conditions.

Thanks in advance. i'll have a drink on your behalf seeing i can't buy you one here and now.

bayern wrote:

The WSB 1900, can someone post the race conditions if possible. Without knowing what these are, FOR ME, the weights are extremely puzzling - some horses look well in because of the weight they carrying, but could still be under sufferance in terms of the race conditions.

Thanks in advance. i'll have a drink on your behalf seeing i can't buy you one here and now.

WORLD SPORTS BETTING 1900 (Grade 2)400 000 For all Horses Benchmark at
62,0 kg = 122 or more Benchmark
at 60,0 kg = 117 to 121 Benchmark
at 58,0 kg = 112 to 116 Benchmark
at 56,0 kg = 107 to 111 Benchmark
at 54,0 kg = 102 to 106 Benchmark
at 52,0 kg = 101
and less Sex Allowance of 2,5 kg for Fillies and Mares, subject to a minimum weight of 50 kg

naresh wrote:

bayern wrote:

The WSB 1900, can someone post the race conditions if possible. Without knowing what these are, FOR ME, the weights are extremely puzzling - some horses look well in because of the weight they carrying, but could still be under sufferance in terms of the race conditions.

Thanks in advance. i'll have a drink on your behalf seeing i can't buy you one here and now.

WORLD SPORTS BETTING 1900 (Grade 2)400 000 For all Horses Benchmark at
62,0 kg = 122 or more Benchmark
at 60,0 kg = 117 to 121 Benchmark
at 58,0 kg = 112 to 116 Benchmark
at 56,0 kg = 107 to 111 Benchmark
at 54,0 kg = 102 to 106 Benchmark
at 52,0 kg = 101
and less Sex Allowance of 2,5 kg for Fillies and Mares, subject to a minimum weight of 50 kg

Dankie baie

Using Rascallion (122), then the horse weighted to win is Aragosta, well in against Rascallion by 1.0kg. Quasiforsure is carrying the correct weight against Rascallion, Comparing Quasiforsure to Aragosta, Quasiforsure is 1.0kg out at the weights.

Aragosta at 12.5/1 looks a tasty betting proposition

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