Greenpoint stakes 7 decemeber 2024
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Re: Greenpoint stakes 7 decemeber 2024
6 months 1 week ago
was to quick DTK has been taken out. 6 horses left
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Re: Greenpoint stakes 7 decemeber 2024
6 months 1 week ago
Very disappointing field for the Green Point Stakes, probably end up as 5 runners. When there is prize money of 600k and trainers field 6 runners it makes you wonder.
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Re: Greenpoint stakes 7 decemeber 2024
6 months 1 week ago
There has been some great WSB Green Point Stakes the last few years
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Re: Greenpoint stakes 7 decemeber 2024
6 months 1 week ago - 6 months 1 week ago
Agree Bob hence my disappointment....
Owners want the stakes to race for, Greg, Owen and sponsors have come to the party so what are the trainers doing?
Punters want to see as many horses run as possible in the lead up to G1 races as some have these races as their season target, others use them as prep runs etc.
Is there something wrong with the program?
Owners want the stakes to race for, Greg, Owen and sponsors have come to the party so what are the trainers doing?
Punters want to see as many horses run as possible in the lead up to G1 races as some have these races as their season target, others use them as prep runs etc.
Is there something wrong with the program?
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Re: Greenpoint stakes 7 decemeber 2024
6 months 1 week ago
Likely that trainers trying to protect horses' ratings to land a strike later...run a decent race behind a highly rated horse and it can compromise weight carried in future handicap races or be limited to set weight races...
I think the way in which ratings are assigned needs to be looked at...one good anomalous (sometimes a combination of a good draw, the right pace and better rated runners having an off / prep run day) run can push a horse up, but it can take many below par runs to move the rating down...
I think the way in which ratings are assigned needs to be looked at...one good anomalous (sometimes a combination of a good draw, the right pace and better rated runners having an off / prep run day) run can push a horse up, but it can take many below par runs to move the rating down...
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Re: Greenpoint stakes 7 decemeber 2024
6 months 1 week ago
Thanks T, I partially agree with you however there would also be horses trying to get their rating up so that they can be accepted into other races.
If fear of the MR is the issue then why did the trainers not raise this issue earlier? Besides, if the limited field is due to a fear of increased MR then change the conditions... Trainers cannot have everything go their way surely. But i am sure if the conditions were changed then trainers would be saying it doesn't suit....
One common denominator in my opinion.
If fear of the MR is the issue then why did the trainers not raise this issue earlier? Besides, if the limited field is due to a fear of increased MR then change the conditions... Trainers cannot have everything go their way surely. But i am sure if the conditions were changed then trainers would be saying it doesn't suit....
One common denominator in my opinion.
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Re: Greenpoint stakes 7 decemeber 2024
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Green Point StakesResults02 Dec 2023, WORLD SPORTS BETTING GREEN POINT STAKES (Grade 2) , SEE IT AGAIN 1600m 1:36.84 | KENILWORTH | PIERE STRYDOM | MICHAEL ROBERTS 03 Dec 2022, WORLD SPORTS BETTING GREEN POINT STAKES (Grade 2) , TRIP OF FORTUNE 1600m 1:39.17 | KENILWORTH | ALDO DOMEYER | C L BASS-ROBINSON 04 Dec 2021, WSB CLUB PRIVE GREEN POINT STAKES (Grade 2) , SEEKING THE STARS 1600m 1:39.85 | KENILWORTH | ANTON MARCUS | VAUGHAN MARSHALL 12 Dec 2020, WORLD SPORTS BETTING GREEN POINT STAKES (Grade 2) , BELGARION 1600m 1:36.72 | KENILWORTH | RICHARD FOURIE | JUSTIN SNAITH 14 Dec 2019, WORLD SPORTS BETTING GREEN POINT STAKES (Grade 2) , VARDY 1600m 1:37.46 | KENILWORTH | CRAIG ZACKEY | A N MARCUS 08 Dec 2018, GREEN POINT STAKES (Grade 2) , LEGAL EAGLE 1600m 1:38.92 | KENILWORTH | ANTON MARCUS | SEAN TARRY 02 Dec 2017, WORLD SPORTS BETTING GREEN POINT STAKES (Grade 2) , LEGAL EAGLE 1600m 1:37.45 | KENILWORTH | ANTON MARCUS | SEAN TARRY 03 Dec 2016, WORLD SPORTS BETTING GREEN POINT STAKES (Grade 2) , LEGAL EAGLE 1600m 1:36.92 | KENILWORTH | ANTON MARCUS | SEAN TARRY 21 Nov 2015, LANZERAC ALTA MATER GREEN POINT STAKES , CAPTAIN AMERICA 1600m 1:37.65 | KENILWORTH | CORNE ORFFER 22 Nov 2014, LANZERAC LE GENERAL GREEN POINT STAKES , LEGISLATE 1600m 1:35.84 | KENILWORTH | RICHARD FOURIE
Green Point StakesResults02 Dec 2023, WORLD SPORTS BETTING GREEN POINT STAKES (Grade 2) , SEE IT AGAIN 1600m 1:36.84 | KENILWORTH | PIERE STRYDOM | MICHAEL ROBERTS 03 Dec 2022, WORLD SPORTS BETTING GREEN POINT STAKES (Grade 2) , TRIP OF FORTUNE 1600m 1:39.17 | KENILWORTH | ALDO DOMEYER | C L BASS-ROBINSON 04 Dec 2021, WSB CLUB PRIVE GREEN POINT STAKES (Grade 2) , SEEKING THE STARS 1600m 1:39.85 | KENILWORTH | ANTON MARCUS | VAUGHAN MARSHALL 12 Dec 2020, WORLD SPORTS BETTING GREEN POINT STAKES (Grade 2) , BELGARION 1600m 1:36.72 | KENILWORTH | RICHARD FOURIE | JUSTIN SNAITH 14 Dec 2019, WORLD SPORTS BETTING GREEN POINT STAKES (Grade 2) , VARDY 1600m 1:37.46 | KENILWORTH | CRAIG ZACKEY | A N MARCUS 08 Dec 2018, GREEN POINT STAKES (Grade 2) , LEGAL EAGLE 1600m 1:38.92 | KENILWORTH | ANTON MARCUS | SEAN TARRY 02 Dec 2017, WORLD SPORTS BETTING GREEN POINT STAKES (Grade 2) , LEGAL EAGLE 1600m 1:37.45 | KENILWORTH | ANTON MARCUS | SEAN TARRY 03 Dec 2016, WORLD SPORTS BETTING GREEN POINT STAKES (Grade 2) , LEGAL EAGLE 1600m 1:36.92 | KENILWORTH | ANTON MARCUS | SEAN TARRY 21 Nov 2015, LANZERAC ALTA MATER GREEN POINT STAKES , CAPTAIN AMERICA 1600m 1:37.65 | KENILWORTH | CORNE ORFFER 22 Nov 2014, LANZERAC LE GENERAL GREEN POINT STAKES , LEGISLATE 1600m 1:35.84 | KENILWORTH | RICHARD FOURIE
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Re: Greenpoint stakes 7 decemeber 2024
6 months 1 week ago
The smaller the field the bigger the upset 🤔
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