was ACHIEVERS day at Big T a wasted exercise ?

Had a look at the prize horse in Johnny Vos' yard. I hope the jockey has short legs. Great competition concept.

suggestion for summer cup day. Advertise that the first 5,000 or 1st 10,000 ( Depending on P's bdget )people through the gates at Big T get a betting voucher for R 150.00 per entrant. ( this means it costs P R100.00 P.P.)

Entrance fee at the gate is R 50.00 p.p. this is so that you can keep the dregs off the race course, & only the real punters / racegoers will attend.
This entrance fee complete with betting vouchers to be applied to each and every person who comes on course - be it RA members, Honarary members etc. Or No entrance fee paid, obviously no betting voucher.

What turnover could be churned out if there were 10 or even 20 thousand people on course.Once the betting voucher has been used up, they will start to use their own cash.

Will they have enough A.T.M. machines on course to enable you to withdraw that extra cash ? will they have enough QUALIFIED TOTE OPERATORS in attendance.

This is just a suggestion. It's time for Mr Robert Garner & his marketing commitee to put their thinking caps on to try & entice the public to come to Joburgs biggest race day. It's only 2 months away, & I'm sure advertising this race day will probably only take place a month before the big race.IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO GET THINGS GOING.

Think OUTSIDE THE BOX ! Let's make this years Summer Cup day attendance the best we've had this century ( in Joburg that is )

The vibe at the Met & at the July has not been experienced here in Joburg, or certainly not in the last 15 odd years.

as a young person myself, i see no point in promoiting this game or trying to attract ppl to a game where winning money is so horribly hard. clearly if ppl are making money they can easily invite others into 'making money' and the game would advertise itself. horse racing is an intersting sport but i think a lot needs to be done to educate the average punter. it is a well known fact that ppl lose money week after week in this game, in fact statistically speaking 97% of punters in this game lose money on a continous basis. so why 'attrack' ppl into something like that?

Keniza don`t you think the social aspect of Horse racing is as important as the punting side?

Contrary to popular belief we are not all in racing to make our fortunes,infact most of us are in racing to spend our fortunes,and most of us treat it as it should be treated a pastime...

Who wouldn`t enjoy an afternoon,drinking,eating,gambling ,mixing with friends?

and who`s to say it costs more than taking up golf or similar hobbies?

Hey Marc it certainly helped that you backed something like 5 winners on the trot!!! Hope the boys drove home cause the girls were speaking gibberish!

Hahahah Brent I must tell you about the dinner with my father AFTER we left the track... The chicks were nuts but are definately planning to come back again

mr hawaii, this thread I started has ovbiously hit a nerve, cause there's been close on 600 viewings in 2 days.
what started off as possibly a negative responce from myself, has turned around 360 degrees I believe, and a LOT of positive feedback has landed up on this thread.

All I ask of you is that after your meeting tomorrow, you do your best to enquire if any of your staff members did in fact promise free betting vouchers to entice young achievers to the course.( you say you did not, & you say Peter N did not - but what about your staff )

A simple yes or no would be suffice. Good night, case closed.

Allow me..to help the RA...

IT contractors earn > R80,000 pm nett..
Racing Industry not RINGFENCED YET.....
they dont need vouchers................
got plenty of cash.....................
need an escape.........................
drinks..snacks...fun...................
get the mind to relax..................
if a=b..then...else...do that..........
age range 25 - 45......................
all races..all colours...all sexes.....
They have kids too.....................
kids that will follow in the footsteps.

view www.itjobs.co.za
companies hiring.....all IT contracting companies..
about 10,000 IT contractors in south africa.....
understand numbers.....................
understand risk........................
no education needed....................
computer literate......................
all have laptops.......................
all will open interbet & tote accounts.
all hate the smell of horse...flies....
good for the ego trips.................
syndicates can be formed...............
will buy horses........................

Invite them on trips for the weekend...
stud farms.............................
self drive..self accomodation..........
black tie at the farm..................

Invite them to the racetrack...........
dont stick them in the back room.......
window seats at the winning post.......
cash bar...............................
some free wine on the table............
get a few of the jockeys to come up....
before the race and speak to them......
NO TIPS..the guys will never come back.

MNR consulting..>32 CONTRACT staff members......
nuno part owner in Bernabeu............

JMR consulting..>231 CONTRACT staff members.....
Mike will buy a few horses.............

Connection-42...>40 CONTRACT staff members......


You can ask this lot to write you a free web booking system....
you wont be able to satisfy the demand..
not enough weekends or stud farms to accommodate these people..

Andre fair point..ownership comes to a crunch when you get your training vet and other bills month after month after month with no runners..with just two horses your monthly costs will pay off a bond of at least R1.5m

Whats more important to a young achiever..buying a house or paying for two hungry horses?

Can phum not buy and lease back horses,to "new blood"?

Hib Im sure they can..but there is no way they would.

Most of these IT guys............
marry another IT woman...........
no other woman understand them...

hence...their combined monthly nett > R150K..
The RACING INDUSTRY is not RINGFENCED..yet...
These guys are looking for TAX BREAKS........


most of these guys dont have bonds...........
They save up till they have R3m..30 months...
buy the house................................
save up for 10 months...buy a car or 2.......

remember the banks are full off #$%^&*(())))))
If you dont work for a company..must be in the yellow pages..
must have a personel department which they can phone..to verify your job..
NO CREDIT...I know..I am an IT guy..


they all have money stacked away in FAMILY TRUSTS...
I know..they are my investors and mates...

Riaan made R2m last year with me..
He works at Spoornet..............
Gets paid far too much............
he is 42....
what is he going to do with the money..
teach him to punt..
Romance these guys...dont treat them like prostitutes...