Jockey Bans

Is one week the minimum ban in SA? just seems that every time i read a ban notice the jockey gets a one week ban,seems rather harsh in some cases..

My question as a punter - why no bans enforced on horses that run inconsistently - the rule is there and should be applied more rigourously if the game is to rid itself of the image of being 'crook'

Mr H ,One of my'pet' subjects that I have posted on a few times.
The rule cannot be applied while it is subjective(lose on appeal every time)
Inconsistent running needs to be defined and then applied,with the help of handicappers,who record and rate every run!

Any idea the number of that rule Mr H?

62.3 INCONSISTENT RUNNING

62.3.1 The TRAINER of a HORSE shall ensure that such HORSE does not run in
an inconsistent manner (also referred to as "reversal of form" or "in and out
running"). Where inconsistent running or a reversal of form has or may
have occurred, an investigation into such matter may be held in terms of the
RULES.
62.3.2 When, after an investigation in terms of RULE 62.3.1, a HORSE is found to
be an inconsistent runner, it may be suspended in terms of RULE 93.


93. SUSPENSION OF HORSES

93.1 PROHIBITION
Any HORSE may be suspended by the STEWARDS or an INQUIRY BOARD
on such terms and for such period as they may determine, provided that a
HORSE shall not be suspended because of disease, infirmity, unsoundness
or unfitness except on the report of a veterinary surgeon. Any such suspension
shall be immediately effective, notwithstanding the provisions of RULE 81.2.
Without in any way limiting the terms of any suspension order which may be
imposed on any HORSE, a suspension order may, in the discretion of the
STEWARDS or any INQUIRY BOARD, include a suspension from:-
93.1.1 being run in a RACE;
93.1.2 being trained on RACE COURSE PROPERTY;
93.1.3 being trained with other HORSES qualified to run under the RULES;
93.1.4 being trained at any public training area.
93.2 GROUNDS AND CIRCUMSTANCES
A HORSE may, in addition to any other circumstances prescribed in the RULES,
be suspended if:-
93.2.1 it has participated in any way at any unauthorised race meeting;
93.2.2 it has been the subject of an INQUIRY or involved in an offence in terms of
the RULES;
93.2.3 it is trained, managed or supervised, directly or indirectly, by anybody who
has been warned off, disqualified or whose name appears on the
DEFAULTERS’ LIST. Such suspension shall endure until the OWNER of
the HORSE has made alternative arrangements for the training of the HORSE
to the satisfaction of the Chairman of the SB of the RACING DISTRICT in
which the HORSE is trained, managed or supervised;
93.2.4 it is intractable or unruly on a RACE COURSE prior to or at the start of a
RACE or if it refuses to load on transport for purposes of being transported
to a RACE MEETING;
93.2.5 the STEWARDS are of the opinion that it is a source of danger or interference
to other HORSES or to PERSONS or individuals taking part in any RACE or
to PERSONS or individuals present at the RACE MEETING;
93.2.6 it is found to be an inconsistent runner, unfit, unsound, infirm or suffering
from any disease.
93.3 EFFECT OF SUSPENSION ON ENTRIES
A suspension imposed on a HORSE from running in any RACE for any period,
shall, save where expressly provided to the contrary, not preclude such HORSE
from being entered for a RACE to be run after the period of the suspension

Thanks Hibs it is such a difficult rule to enforce though especially on the sand but I'd love to just see more inquiries regardless of penalties as most times there are valid reasons for in and out runs - What does confuse me though is when a trainer puts say blinkers on a horse(and this is given as the reason for the improved run) and it improves lengths then the next time out it runs behind horses it beat easily wearing the blinkers. Believe me some horses are just plain inconsistent and they work well on monday and then poorly on friday but there are some that perhaps need closer attention. I know racing is a gamble but 20 lengths reversals are difficult to swallow even for the most hardened punter

Must be one of the hardest if not the hardest rule to implement though?

I remember in the old days the trainers where questioned after an improved run and the findings where published in the stipes report. I have not seen much of that in the last few years. Does this still get done??

I know it is a toothless remedy, but I would just like the trainers to inform us why they think the horse imporved or ran out the back door!!

I have the handbook issued to all trainers with their training license with list of excuses.

Section One

What to tell the owner so he doesnt take the horse from he yard

Section 2

What to tell the stipes when called to a hearing.

Section 3

What to tell the Feed supplier and other suppliers when they are not paid.

Section 4

What to tell the union steward when the grooms are unhappy Generallyafter a metal bucket hit them in the back of the head after falling from a horse or letting the horse get losse at gallops.

Other Sectionns are added from time to time.

Perhaps there are so few inquiries into "inconsistent running", because no self-respecting stipe would dare ask a trainer who is restricted to racing on concrete or slush at the Vaal, followed by inside or outside track at Turffontein, with confusing inconsistency; coupled with strange programming. Maybe not, who cares anymore.

Fair point doggie

Rider banned for trying too hard - and too little


TALENTED amateur jockey Victoria Cartmel was suspended, bizarrely, for trying too hard and also for trying too little on Mista Rossa in the final race at Newbury on Saturday.

Having appeared to have ridden the perfect race as she waited behind the two leaders, it all went wrong in the final furlong and Mista Rossa was caught in the last stride by Warnes's Way, who had been under pressure from the home turn.

Cartmel, who has ridden five winners and works for Mista Rossa's trainer Hughie Morrison, was given a four-day ban for use of her whip and, minutes later, that was topped up with a 28-day ban for dropping her hands in the closing stages.

Ironically, Cartmel was taking her final ride for the time being, having decided to take a new direction in life.

She said: "It's disappointing to have gone out like this. Hopefully I'll be back to race-riding one day if an opportunity arises."


Morrison defended her ride. He said: "Victoria is an amateur rider and she rides very well indeed. The horse was very tired, and so was the jockey. You have to remember, these girls don't get too many opportunities on the racecourse."

Paul Barton, stipendiary steward, said: "I believe this may be racing history because I doubt if a jockey has been suspended for the whip and dropping hands in the same race."