Ready to Run Race
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Ready to Run Race
15 years 9 months ago
How can they do the draws before the Noms are closed?
Does anyone know?
Does anyone know?
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- Dave Scott
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Re: Re: Ready to Run Race
15 years 9 months ago
Hi Oscar, this was a reply for a question from Mr H not sure if this is what you are looking for?
Thanks to Raf and Vee for feedback
Hi Dave
If we have a field of 7 or less runners in a race, trainers of all horses scratched are called and given the opportunity to re-instate. This is done in order to "save" the race. Most times trainers who have declared are aware as we are transparent on the Net.
Barrier position is done at time of Entries and in terms of Racing Operators Condition under no circumstances do we re-draw for any race.
Calling a trainer to re-instate and then telling him that his barrier position will be changed, I believe we will have no chance of saving races.
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Raf Sheik
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National Racing Bureau
Thanks to Raf and Vee for feedback
Hi Dave
If we have a field of 7 or less runners in a race, trainers of all horses scratched are called and given the opportunity to re-instate. This is done in order to "save" the race. Most times trainers who have declared are aware as we are transparent on the Net.
Barrier position is done at time of Entries and in terms of Racing Operators Condition under no circumstances do we re-draw for any race.
Calling a trainer to re-instate and then telling him that his barrier position will be changed, I believe we will have no chance of saving races.
Regards
Raf Sheik
Manager
National Racing Bureau
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Re: Re: Ready to Run Race
15 years 9 months ago
Are you sure that answer is not just a joke for the day Dave?
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Re: Re: Ready to Run Race
15 years 9 months ago
must say Mr H did not appeared to charmed either
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- Karel Miedema
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Re: Re: Ready to Run Race
15 years 9 months ago
Ready To Run Cup
1400m R1 500 000
For 3-year-old Horses
Weights: All to carry 58kg
Fillies allowed 2,5kg
Apprentice Allowance may NOT be claimed
Entries close : 11:00 Friday 23 October 2009
Supplementary Entries Close : 11:00 Friday 30 October 2009
Weights : Friday 30 October 2009
Declarations by : 11:00 Tuesday 3 November 2009
Declaration Fee : R 8,550 (Fee R 7,500 + VAT R 1,050)
1st R750,000 2nd R300,000 3rd R200,000 4th R80,000 5th R45,000
6th R30,000 7th R28,000 8th R25,000 9th R22,000 10th R20,000
Field size will be limited to 16 runners plus 2 reserve runners
1400m R1 500 000
For 3-year-old Horses
Weights: All to carry 58kg
Fillies allowed 2,5kg
Apprentice Allowance may NOT be claimed
Entries close : 11:00 Friday 23 October 2009
Supplementary Entries Close : 11:00 Friday 30 October 2009
Weights : Friday 30 October 2009
Declarations by : 11:00 Tuesday 3 November 2009
Declaration Fee : R 8,550 (Fee R 7,500 + VAT R 1,050)
1st R750,000 2nd R300,000 3rd R200,000 4th R80,000 5th R45,000
6th R30,000 7th R28,000 8th R25,000 9th R22,000 10th R20,000
Field size will be limited to 16 runners plus 2 reserve runners
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Re: Re: Ready to Run Race
15 years 9 months ago
Thanks Karel so when do they do the draw..if Supp entries close Fri 30th?
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Re: Re: Ready to Run Race
15 years 9 months ago
Friday 30th, is when I assume draws were done.
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Re: Re: Ready to Run Race
15 years 9 months ago
No magic the draws were done already 10 days ago..how and why boggles the mind its unacceptable to any sane person..but then they probably all sane and Im nuts
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Re: Re: Ready to Run Race
15 years 9 months ago
Draws for all races on the card were done when entries closed (23rd).
Supplemental probably get random draws if the Rule below is anything to go by:
1.16 Draw Procedure
1.16.1 Subject to conditions 1.16.2 to 1.16.5, inclusive, the Barrier Draw shall be
conducted in terms of the Rules.
1.16.2 If, after the barrier draw has been effected;
1.16.2.1 a horse is omitted from the list of entries for any reason and is
subsequently included;
1.16.2.2 entries are re-opened for a race and a horse is subsequently included;
1.16.2.3 a horse is subsequently included for any other reason;
then a draw shall be randomly allocated in respect of the horse so included
and all other horses drawn the same as and outside (higher than)
the randomly allocated draw, shall be adjusted outwards (higher).
1.16.3 Similarly, in the event that a horse is removed from the list of entries for any reason after the barrier draw has been effected, those horses remaining
in the list of entries and drawn outside (higher than) the horse removed from
the list of entries, shall have their barrier draws adjusted inwards (lower).
1.16.4 Any horse removed from one race and included in another race
shall NOT retain its original barrier draw but shall have a new
draw allocated in terms of Conditions 1.16.2 and 1.16.3.
entries are re-opened for a race and a horse is subsequently included;
reason after the barrier draw has been effected, those horses remaining
1.16.5 Under no circumstances, shall any race where barrier draws have been
already allocated, be redrawn.
Supplemental probably get random draws if the Rule below is anything to go by:
1.16 Draw Procedure
1.16.1 Subject to conditions 1.16.2 to 1.16.5, inclusive, the Barrier Draw shall be
conducted in terms of the Rules.
1.16.2 If, after the barrier draw has been effected;
1.16.2.1 a horse is omitted from the list of entries for any reason and is
subsequently included;
1.16.2.2 entries are re-opened for a race and a horse is subsequently included;
1.16.2.3 a horse is subsequently included for any other reason;
then a draw shall be randomly allocated in respect of the horse so included
and all other horses drawn the same as and outside (higher than)
the randomly allocated draw, shall be adjusted outwards (higher).
1.16.3 Similarly, in the event that a horse is removed from the list of entries for any reason after the barrier draw has been effected, those horses remaining
in the list of entries and drawn outside (higher than) the horse removed from
the list of entries, shall have their barrier draws adjusted inwards (lower).
1.16.4 Any horse removed from one race and included in another race
shall NOT retain its original barrier draw but shall have a new
draw allocated in terms of Conditions 1.16.2 and 1.16.3.
entries are re-opened for a race and a horse is subsequently included;
reason after the barrier draw has been effected, those horses remaining
1.16.5 Under no circumstances, shall any race where barrier draws have been
already allocated, be redrawn.
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Re: Re: Ready to Run Race
15 years 9 months ago
Don`t understand why they make the draw before final nominations?
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