Vaal 10/01/2012

Lucky_Dude Wrote:

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> Is there anywhere in the world that has a really
> good merit rating system that we could learn from?

England, maybe, or Qatar, where my mate Ryan Skelton does the handicapping and loves not having his hands tried by all these silly limits and plate race rules and whatever other nonsense has bastardised the system in SA over the years. I suspect that in the UK the handicapper/s also have pretty much carte blanche to rate horses as they see fit. Of course there will always be people who are unhappy with their horses' ratings, but the system works because the people who are tasked with making it work are allowed to get on with it as they see fit.

when will the current handicappers term xpires

gregbucks Wrote:

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> You don't think Magic Circle can get closer to
> Life's Ocean with a 12.5kg swing now on there run
> to Rosey's Song?


Its going into my PA greg!

One horse that I think would of had a good future had the handicappers not penalised him on his runs to PJ and 4th in the July yo Bold Silvano was Service ace.. This was a onw timer with a rating of like 104?stand to be corrected though

Is there any1 on the forum that subscribe to John Sweet from Scoenies in P-E ?

if so please post hias quartet selections and or exotics.

rob faux Wrote:

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> Most of today's runners have raced off higher
> marks than they are on
> today........................this is the kind of
> crappy racing you get when you allow careers to be
> extended on the basis of subsidising the old,the
> sick,the lame or the lazy.
> This utilises stakes,albeit half,on horses on
> their way out, instead of providing for new
> younger horses,on the upgrade,and with careers
> ahead of them
> Most industries or sports attempt to "raise the
> bar" ....why is racing going the other way?
> It's what you get when you allow "ability" ratings
> to reduce..................allowing the failing to
> hinder the improving.


Rob,the majority of these new younger horses become the moderate ones.
Its like a lucky dip when you buy a juvenile.
Its the same in the UK,some meetings are poor and the horses are slow
but they tend to find their level.What would you do Rob with the slow ones ?
I have sent a couple to a riding school for local kids,trouble is there are too many
horse to home.

Moderate horses are the backbone of racing anywhere and need the opportunities to earn. There are more horses rated 60 something than there are horses rated 100 plus, so it stands to reason that low level racing forms the bulk of any racing programme. It does not stop the good horses from rising to the top, as long as the programme is reasonably balanced, and on the whole I think ours in SA is balanced enough. You can't please all the people all the time, but having a bunch of merit rated 60 something handicaps has done absolutely nothing to stop Graded race horses from doing their stuff.

magiclips Wrote:

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> Moderate horses are the backbone of racing
> anywhere and need the opportunities to earn.
> There are more horses rated 60 something than
> there are horses rated 100 plus, so it stands to
> reason that low level racing forms the bulk of any
> racing programme. It does not stop the good
> horses from rising to the top, as long as the
> programme is reasonably balanced, and on the whole
> I think ours in SA is balanced enough. You can't
> please all the people all the time, but having a
> bunch of merit rated 60 something handicaps has
> done absolutely nothing to stop Graded race horses
> from doing their stuff.


Couldnt have put it better myself.

davetheflower Wrote:

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> rob faux Wrote:
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> > Most of today's runners have raced off higher
> > marks than they are on
> > today........................this is the kind
> of
> > crappy racing you get when you allow careers to
> be
> > extended on the basis of subsidising the
> old,the
> > sick,the lame or the lazy.
> > This utilises stakes,albeit half,on horses on
> > their way out, instead of providing for new
> > younger horses,on the upgrade,and with careers
> > ahead of them
> > Most industries or sports attempt to "raise the
> > bar" ....why is racing going the other way?
> > It's what you get when you allow "ability"
> ratings
> > to reduce..................allowing the failing
> to
> > hinder the improving.
>
>
> Rob,the majority of these new younger horses
> become the moderate ones.
> Its like a lucky dip when you buy a juvenile.
> Its the same in the UK,some meetings are poor and
> the horses are slow
> but they tend to find their level.What would you
> do Rob with the slow ones ?
> I have sent a couple to a riding school for local
> kids,trouble is there are too many
> horse to home.

Dave the problem is then we would have to send 80% of our horses from GAUTENG RACING to riding schools... Hmmmm, maybe that won't be such a problem after all...

MAGIC, we seem to have these lower graded races week in, week out up here (Gauteng)??... Have you noticed the lack of stayers races in Gauteng, I feel for the owners that have stayers, Shrek you one that comes to mind.

Is Nautical Adventure now a runner in the 2nd?

Says SP on Hollywood Gordo...??

Just checked TAB site, saying Malherbe is riding so looks like it!