PIRATE QUEEN

All these issues would be best handled by the people charged with protecting the integrity of the sport/industry.....The NHA !
If a discussion had taken place between the stipes and a jock riding an odds on shot that got continually baulked,Agrella would be given the opportunity to explain/defend and knowing this would be reported,would reduce speculation and uninformed conclusions
Instead it is left to others to speak, on his behalf,on a forum, to the ignorant punters.
Is that expectation from the establishment unreasonable?

SHAM

the difference is I PREDICTED before the race it would not do anything , and i did that on BETTING patterns ONLY.

You seem like mice people, dont get too personal here. The betting on that horse was not normal, NO ONE lays for (unlimited) 6/4 (15/10 ) about an odds on shot.

So before the race i posted it would fail, it failed, now what do you want? You can look for good and look at your double I CAN tell you for a FACT that horse was ICECOLD.

So now that its ICECOLD i watch it in the race (by this time i have layed it to recoup my stakes and profit) AT NO point in the race was this horse EVER in it.

BLAME, what ever you want, CLEVER people dont lay OVER the odds UNLESS they know something, same as "clever" people like you DONT take under the odds.

For my final point i ask you, if a horse is 15/10 and your bookie offers you 8/10 do you think its chances are implied to be enhanced or not?

so it seems like the route to lay no good horses is on betfair and our sa jocks and trainers have accounts there and lay on there lol........easy INTERBET is the best measure to see if funny games are played so what volumes and prices were being offered and layed on it compared to the blower price?its threads like this that give forums a bad name, if i was mr agrella iwould be laying legal charges against the site and mr easy...

Not getting personal Easy, the horse was backed from 2/1 to 9/10 in SA. We are not allowed to trade on Betfair so the only people that can lay horses are bookmakers. Are you a bookmaker or do you run a bucket shop?

anyone that believes that people from sa cant get on betfair/pari mutual/honk kong or any other market is dillusional.

I am neither, but i do occasionaly watch sa markets on betfair and i would say that >90% of the time i can tell you whats hot or cold.

I am not talking about a 6/1 that is offered at 10/1 for £23, i am talking about a 9/10 shot that is offered like today as follows:

2.46 £423 2.54 £367 2.6 £500 PLUS what ever else was off the grid.

Whomever was laying it could NOT give it away quick enough. then watch the race and come up with a different conclusion.

As i said i predicted this event BEFORE the race....

Bet fair is much bigger and stronger than the locals. Couldn't have laid anything on the race so then stretch the favorite to look for the mug punters like us....

Let's put this to bed now and give the kid a chance. Sure pretty much everyone has an off day at the office....

Pirates interesting comment ! Did you watch the race and if so what did you think of the ride? Even if you had a bet or not i know that you know this game so forget about Betfair and Interbet what did you think about the ride ?

sham

not me i managed to turn a losing position into a winning one

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> Pirates interesting comment ! Did you watch the
> race and if so what did you think of the ride?
> Even if you had a bet or not i know that you know
> this game so forget about Betfair and Interbet
> what did you think about the ride ?


it wasnt waynes best ride but to be honest she never looked to be travelling very well and even if she found a clear path she wouldnt have won...i gave up betting on pe racing over 5 years ago as i found that firstly form didnt stand up as consistently as other centres and many horses cant find trouble free runs in races and there are plenty hard luck stories...also there is a major draw bias on both courses up the straight which doesnt lead to fair racing...the evidence given by easy that wayne was no good is laughable and this posting should have been done on sunday the 1st of april

I apologise to wayne and everyone, with daylight saving i got dates all cocked up. Thought it was 1st april

Let's just all turn tellytrack on, race replays on at the moment, let's wait for the race to come on and make some more informed comments

I watch replay and must say easy you are talk from your pocket go get the glasses check. You can not tell me this horse was pulled. A bad ride we dont argue