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> Ryan Moore gives his thoughts on today's Ascot
> meeting:-
>
> He misses the first two races but that's not
> stopped Ryan giving his verdict on Frankel in the
> opener and King's Stand Stakes 30 minutes later
> plus thoughts on his four mounts to round out the
> card. Read Ryan's exclusive thoughts here
>
> 14:50
> I have ridden plenty of short-priced losers in my
> time, but never one as good as Frankel. He will
> beat Excelebration, and Strong Suit will be third.
> Nothing more to say is there? Let's move on.
>
> 15:05
> I don't have a ride in this either, but if it is
> good ground then I would probably like to be on
> Bated Breath, as he impressed me at Haydock. And
> if it is soft, then maybe Wizz Kid. But there is
> no stand-out horse and it wouldn't surprise me if
> any one of six or seven won it - Ortensia looked
> good in Dubai and I always respect Hong Kong
> sprinters.
>
> But this week, with massive fields, the pace, the
> draw and luck in running will play a massive role.
> Often how you jump and travel in the first 50
> yards, and whether you are near the pace, will
> often dictate whether you can win. And the reason
> why the fields are so huge this week is that there
> are no stand-out horses in many of the races - the
> likes of the Coventry, Jersey and the Queen Mary -
> so everyone is throwing their hat into the ring.
>
> 15:45
> Gregorian
> Effective on good and soft going, so the ground
> shouldn't be a problem however it rides. Made a
> winning reappearance in a hot Newbury handicap in
> April (albeit off just a mark of 88) but then
> appeared to run a blinder when fifth in a bunch
> finish in the French 2,000, and that was even
> better than it looked because he raced wide.
> Didn't get the run of the race at all in a very
> rough French Derby last time, so I think you can
> ignore that. Hopefully he will get better luck in
> running today, and he will need it from 12, but a
> strongly-run 1m will hopefully bring out the best
> in him. But he clearly needs to improve. I think
> Power is the best horse in the race but if it
> rides slow, then that would be a concern. He
> didn't like it when I rode him at Newmarket. Born
> To Sea was an eye-catcher behind Power at the
> Curragh, I was quite impressed by Cogito in the
> Heron Stakes and you have to respect the French
> horses Lucayan and Hermival. And keep an eye on
> Fencing too; he travelled really well in the Dante
> and the step back to a mile will suit. All in all,
> this is a very, very competitive race.
>
> 16:25
> Lines of Battle
> Dawn Approach and Sir Prancealot are the ones to
> beat on form coming into this. But I personally
> thought the former was workmanlike at Naas and,
> while Sir Prancelot was visually more impressive
> at Sandown, it wasn't the strongest of listed
> races. They could both be more vulnerable than
> their prices suggest. I certainly wouldn't be in a
> rush to rule out any supposed second strings from
> any of the top stables in the 2yo races this week,
> as they are all obviously lightly-raced with any
> improvement in them. And often horses come alive
> on the track, and show far more than they do at
> home. You only have to look at the Newmarket
> maiden that I won on Richard Hannon's 16-1 chance
> Havana Gold earlier in the month from the stable's
> fellow debutant, the odds-on Pearl Acclaim, to see
> that. And that is especially true of any of
> Aidan's two year olds, both of whom come into this
> race with one run and one win under their belt.
> Cristoforo Colombo is shorter in the betting than
> my mount and ridden by Joseph, but on my reading
> of the form book you could easily argue that Lines
> Of Battle showed much the better form when winning
> his maiden at the Curragh. He appeared to win with
> a bit in hand there and the form is working out
> very well too - the runner-up ran well in defeat
> next time, the third holds a Group 1 entry and won
> next time, and the seventh, Theatre, won by 6 ½
> lengths a fortnight later. In fact, I rode Theatre
> to finish seventh at the Curragh and it rode like
> a really good maiden, too. And Lines Of Battle is
> a lovely looking horse; hopefully, this race
> doesn't come too soon for him and he still needs
> the experience. But I am happy to be riding him.
>
> 17:00
> Simenon
> It looks as if I may be on the favourite here, so
> let us hope the betting has got this one right. He
> showed some smart form in staying handicaps when
> with Andrew Balding last season, notably when
> third at Goodwood off a 2lb higher mark than this.
> He then joined Willie Mullins to go hurdling and
> showed real ability when third in an admittedly
> weak Grade 1 at Punchestown and when hacking up by
> 15 lengths at Cork last month. Looks well
> handicapped on his English Flat form, and there is
> a possibility that he has improved too as a 5yo.
> Willie saddled Sesenta to finish second in this
> race in 2009, so maybe we can go one better here;
> if he stays, then I am hopeful. I am drawn well in
> seven. Don't underestimate the importance of the
> draw in these staying races.
>
> 17:35
> Ask Dad
> I won on Lyric Ace in the soft at Leicester and he
> again impressed me when he followed up at Kempton
> last time. He may well be the one to beat but you
> don't need me to tell you that with 23 unexposed
> 2yos in here, something could quite easily improve
> past him and the likes of Dylanbaru. Let's hope
> that Ask Dad is such a horse. He only made his
> debut 10 days ago in a Newmarket maiden but ran
> well to finish second to a horse that had an
> outing. And he looked green and in need of the
> experience there. Needs to step up the best part
> of a stone, and maybe more, to even get close to
> some of these, and that may be too much of an ask.
What the fark do jockeys know....
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> Ryan Moore gives his thoughts on today's Ascot
> meeting:-
>
> He misses the first two races but that's not
> stopped Ryan giving his verdict on Frankel in the
> opener and King's Stand Stakes 30 minutes later
> plus thoughts on his four mounts to round out the
> card. Read Ryan's exclusive thoughts here
>
> 14:50
> I have ridden plenty of short-priced losers in my
> time, but never one as good as Frankel. He will
> beat Excelebration, and Strong Suit will be third.
> Nothing more to say is there? Let's move on.
>
> 15:05
> I don't have a ride in this either, but if it is
> good ground then I would probably like to be on
> Bated Breath, as he impressed me at Haydock. And
> if it is soft, then maybe Wizz Kid. But there is
> no stand-out horse and it wouldn't surprise me if
> any one of six or seven won it - Ortensia looked
> good in Dubai and I always respect Hong Kong
> sprinters.
>
> But this week, with massive fields, the pace, the
> draw and luck in running will play a massive role.
> Often how you jump and travel in the first 50
> yards, and whether you are near the pace, will
> often dictate whether you can win. And the reason
> why the fields are so huge this week is that there
> are no stand-out horses in many of the races - the
> likes of the Coventry, Jersey and the Queen Mary -
> so everyone is throwing their hat into the ring.
>
> 15:45
> Gregorian
> Effective on good and soft going, so the ground
> shouldn't be a problem however it rides. Made a
> winning reappearance in a hot Newbury handicap in
> April (albeit off just a mark of 88) but then
> appeared to run a blinder when fifth in a bunch
> finish in the French 2,000, and that was even
> better than it looked because he raced wide.
> Didn't get the run of the race at all in a very
> rough French Derby last time, so I think you can
> ignore that. Hopefully he will get better luck in
> running today, and he will need it from 12, but a
> strongly-run 1m will hopefully bring out the best
> in him. But he clearly needs to improve. I think
> Power is the best horse in the race but if it
> rides slow, then that would be a concern. He
> didn't like it when I rode him at Newmarket. Born
> To Sea was an eye-catcher behind Power at the
> Curragh, I was quite impressed by Cogito in the
> Heron Stakes and you have to respect the French
> horses Lucayan and Hermival. And keep an eye on
> Fencing too; he travelled really well in the Dante
> and the step back to a mile will suit. All in all,
> this is a very, very competitive race.
>
> 16:25
> Lines of Battle
> Dawn Approach and Sir Prancealot are the ones to
> beat on form coming into this. But I personally
> thought the former was workmanlike at Naas and,
> while Sir Prancelot was visually more impressive
> at Sandown, it wasn't the strongest of listed
> races. They could both be more vulnerable than
> their prices suggest. I certainly wouldn't be in a
> rush to rule out any supposed second strings from
> any of the top stables in the 2yo races this week,
> as they are all obviously lightly-raced with any
> improvement in them. And often horses come alive
> on the track, and show far more than they do at
> home. You only have to look at the Newmarket
> maiden that I won on Richard Hannon's 16-1 chance
> Havana Gold earlier in the month from the stable's
> fellow debutant, the odds-on Pearl Acclaim, to see
> that. And that is especially true of any of
> Aidan's two year olds, both of whom come into this
> race with one run and one win under their belt.
> Cristoforo Colombo is shorter in the betting than
> my mount and ridden by Joseph, but on my reading
> of the form book you could easily argue that Lines
> Of Battle showed much the better form when winning
> his maiden at the Curragh. He appeared to win with
> a bit in hand there and the form is working out
> very well too - the runner-up ran well in defeat
> next time, the third holds a Group 1 entry and won
> next time, and the seventh, Theatre, won by 6 ½
> lengths a fortnight later. In fact, I rode Theatre
> to finish seventh at the Curragh and it rode like
> a really good maiden, too. And Lines Of Battle is
> a lovely looking horse; hopefully, this race
> doesn't come too soon for him and he still needs
> the experience. But I am happy to be riding him.
>
> 17:00
> Simenon
> It looks as if I may be on the favourite here, so
> let us hope the betting has got this one right. He
> showed some smart form in staying handicaps when
> with Andrew Balding last season, notably when
> third at Goodwood off a 2lb higher mark than this.
> He then joined Willie Mullins to go hurdling and
> showed real ability when third in an admittedly
> weak Grade 1 at Punchestown and when hacking up by
> 15 lengths at Cork last month. Looks well
> handicapped on his English Flat form, and there is
> a possibility that he has improved too as a 5yo.
> Willie saddled Sesenta to finish second in this
> race in 2009, so maybe we can go one better here;
> if he stays, then I am hopeful. I am drawn well in
> seven. Don't underestimate the importance of the
> draw in these staying races.
>
> 17:35
> Ask Dad
> I won on Lyric Ace in the soft at Leicester and he
> again impressed me when he followed up at Kempton
> last time. He may well be the one to beat but you
> don't need me to tell you that with 23 unexposed
> 2yos in here, something could quite easily improve
> past him and the likes of Dylanbaru. Let's hope
> that Ask Dad is such a horse. He only made his
> debut 10 days ago in a Newmarket maiden but ran
> well to finish second to a horse that had an
> outing. And he looked green and in need of the
> experience there. Needs to step up the best part
> of a stone, and maybe more, to even get close to
> some of these, and that may be too much of an ask.
What the fark do jockeys know....

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Re: Re: Royal Ascot
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> What the fark do jockeys know....
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> What the fark do jockeys know....

ab:sew:loot:lee
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Re: Re: Royal Ascot
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> gregbucks Wrote:
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> > What the fark do jockeys know....
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> ab:sew:loot:lee
Do you guys need me to refer you to the English lesson thread on horse;racing
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> ab:sew:loot:lee
Do you guys need me to refer you to the English lesson thread on horse;racing

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Re: Re: Royal Ascot
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> Do you guys need me to refer you to the English
> lesson thread on horse;racing
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That should read Horse-Racing
> Do you guys need me to refer you to the English
> lesson thread on horse;racing

That should read Horse-Racing

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Re: Re: Royal Ascot
12 years 11 months ago
Places Helmut, Spirit Quartz, Secret Assett, Arnold Lane, Elyaadi, Montery
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Re: Re: Royal Ascot
12 years 11 months ago
A wee bet to win R2m for R1000
election
11/2 - Wizz Kid
Event
15:05 Royal Ascot
Market
Race winner
Selection
10/1 - Fencing
Event
15:45 Royal Ascot
Market
Race winner
Selection
11/2 - Cristoforo Colombo
Event
16:25 Royal Ascot
Market
Race winner
Selection
12/1 - Veiled
Event
17:00 Royal Ascot
Market
Race winner
Selection
14/1 - Liber
Event
17:35 Royal Ascot
Market
Race winner
Your bets (1)
Lucky 31 - Each Way
62 lines at £1.00 per line
Total stake for this bet: £62.00
Potential Return: £152327.95
Time: 19/06/12 10:30
Receipt No: O/142622307/0038833
election
11/2 - Wizz Kid
Event
15:05 Royal Ascot
Market
Race winner
Selection
10/1 - Fencing
Event
15:45 Royal Ascot
Market
Race winner
Selection
11/2 - Cristoforo Colombo
Event
16:25 Royal Ascot
Market
Race winner
Selection
12/1 - Veiled
Event
17:00 Royal Ascot
Market
Race winner
Selection
14/1 - Liber
Event
17:35 Royal Ascot
Market
Race winner
Your bets (1)
Lucky 31 - Each Way
62 lines at £1.00 per line
Total stake for this bet: £62.00
Potential Return: £152327.95
Time: 19/06/12 10:30
Receipt No: O/142622307/0038833
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Re: Re: Royal Ascot
12 years 11 months ago
Day 1 Selections:
Race 1: Frankel x Excelebration x Bullet Train
Race 2: Sole Power x Spirit Quartz x Bated Breath
Race 3: Lucayan x Power x Cogito
Race 4: Sir Prancealot x Cristoford Colombo x Indian Jade
Race 5: Dark Ranger x Veiled x Al Khawaneej
Race 6: Lyric Ace x Pay Freeze x BungleintheJungle
Race 1: Frankel x Excelebration x Bullet Train
Race 2: Sole Power x Spirit Quartz x Bated Breath
Race 3: Lucayan x Power x Cogito
Race 4: Sir Prancealot x Cristoford Colombo x Indian Jade
Race 5: Dark Ranger x Veiled x Al Khawaneej
Race 6: Lyric Ace x Pay Freeze x BungleintheJungle
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Re: Re: Royal Ascot
12 years 11 months ago
David Barron has a lot of good 2yr olds this year and Cosmic Chatter is one of
the better ones,5-35 race
the better ones,5-35 race
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Re: Re: Royal Ascot
12 years 11 months ago
Guys, in race 1, Excelebration is 1/1 for a place. I think this is a definite place horse and i reckon we should all get on some of that 1/1 immediately. You can call me Santa later. I have having a decent bet on the place now!
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Re: Re: Royal Ascot
12 years 11 months ago
hate to go against Davetheflower,
in that last race,Smoothtalkingrascal,strong front runner.
double with Much Approved(r3)
will be stretching my bets a bit with Calednion Lady(r2)
Olympic Glory (4th)
My moneys going to be on EXCELEBRATION today.
in that last race,Smoothtalkingrascal,strong front runner.
double with Much Approved(r3)
will be stretching my bets a bit with Calednion Lady(r2)
Olympic Glory (4th)
My moneys going to be on EXCELEBRATION today.
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