TIPSTERS

I have been reading on various threads persons opinion about tipsters and who are good and who are not good, and why should they have airtime etc.

Why is it that we need tipsters? Shouldn't you decide for yourself what who and how you want to play?

at the end of the day any person(s) who tips are just giving his own opinion based on certain facts that he/she determined him/her selves, it is not possible to predict outcome of races with regular certainty by anyone.

On the forum their are a lot of people expressing their opinions who they think should win etc. some are right some are not but it is still you as a punters choice who's opinion you want to follow.

So may take is that all this people who keeps on whining about the various persons tipping and how bad etc should follow their own selections and them blame them self if they lose, and stop blaming other people for their loses..

From my side I am seriously contemplating to stop punting, because if you look at the results lately it is impossible to find winners with regularity, as a form student it is not possible to find some of the winners on form lately, even horses that get placed at 100/1 are becoming a regularity.

James Blond, there are only a few tipsters I listen to like Deez, 2Cents and Niel P, when on course. The main thing I want to know from on course presenters "tipsters", is how the horses looked in the ring and on the way down to the start. I have done my own form studying by this stage so just want to know if the horse doesn't look great.

just look at hollybucks which includes professional tipsters and us ,strike rates not very high.tipping works in cycles and you have more bad times,then good.the only thing that irks me about some tipsters presenters is when they put a horse in their p6 and the horse is coupled with a scratched horse

Tipsters, commentators, interviewers, journalists, whatever... What model Ferrari are any of them driving from their punting proceeds? So why would you follow?

It was interesting to listen to the "prerace opinions" of the visiting UK journalist (will insert name here later) who was interviewed prior to the July consolation race, Scheppes 2200. Despite Laffs persistent interruptions, the bloke managed to finally get out his conclusion which was that he thought if Tribal Dance could get the vigorous ride he needed that the result could be TRIBAL DANCE from BLAKE.

It was reminiscent of the woman from the UK on Met day.

The blokes been here 2 minutes, familiarized himself, analyzed the race without anyone's tips, brassed the favourite, and tipped the 33/1 exacta. Never referred to anything he had heard, just mentioned the key races which supported his argument.

Maybe, James Blond, you should stop punting. Or at least stop listening and start thinking. 2c is the only real analyst, and he has to argue his point with Julie. Just knowing the racing jargon does NOT make someone a profitable punter.

And finally, if you back 2 races in succession the chances are you are a consistent loser and you do this for fun, not profit.

I agree with everything that Jack says,there are guys on here that have been grinding away at this game for ever .One thing they all have in common is when they say something we all take note..You don`t hear them shouting i tipped this i won that i lost this,they just keep grinding..

If your not able or willing to put the hours and hours in that is needed for every card then forget about winning telephone numbers and start fiddling,enjoy the game and don`t fall foul to sharks..

I`m a mug punter and i love it,always remember when you click the button or hand the cash over the counter the money belongs to the bookie

Following with Jack Dash. Many TV presenters interrupt, don't listen and structure questions to get the other guy to answer how they want. Like "don't you think so-and-so can win?". Very irritating...

What is the difference between a fool and a wise man?
The fool has to say something; and
the wise man has something to say.

If u want to win at the game study form on formgrids all the info is there for u to evaluate . Get computerform online which gives all equipment changes which u need and u can also see why a horse that ran a shocker in the comments column this will help to come to a conclusion.IMO Darryl Maree must stop tipping as he's not got a clue

JTL Wrote:

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> If u want to win at the game study form on
> formgrids all the info is there for u to evaluate
> . Get computerform online which gives all
> equipment changes which u need and u can also see
> why a horse that ran a shocker in the comments
> column this will help to come to a conclusion.IMO
> Darryl Maree must stop tipping as he's not got a
> clue

JTL seriously !!!!

Darryl is the only one I ever listen to. Most of the time telycrap is on mute.

a tipster is someone who gives money/reward for a good service some1 renders over and above that persons salary. Eg, we will tip the waitress,car guard or a petrol attendant. I dont see any1 giving me money in my hand and i sure as hell dnt render any services.lol. Thus tipsters in racing?no such thing.lol. Just a saying i made up now

James I understand where u coming from becos u been long in the game and the old school were brought up "plotting" winners, always looking for signs in the Parade Ring, watching the Bookies boards for any giveaway and most importantly following the Betting so that drifters cud be left out most times.
Unfortunately students of form donot have much to study in regard to course and distance specialists becos there's only 2 tracks in Gtng and inner/ outer really does not add up.
Likewise in the Cape, Duranville was a spec. course and Arlington and Fairview not alike.

i give you the certainty about tipsters. not one play there own selections they leave this to the ediots who think the tipster now some thing. now here is the best tip you ever get for free. take the time and find your own winners, also if you loose you can look in the mirror for the fault!

James to continue the discussion, one example now is the case of a stable having 2/3/4 runners coupled in the Jackpot races and the trend seems to favor the least fancied or weakst form runner.

Example @ Fairview last Friday Race 6 we had the favorite State Blue UNBTN C/D and well in on Merit Ratings.Form shows runs to top horses like Val de RA, Princess Victoria, Ebony Flyer, Covenant etc at level wts. Guess who wins?

The stable-companion Hurricane Katrina who had never run to the likes of the above top horses 2 of whom fought out the GR1 Garden Province Stakes later the next day, and Hurricane Katrina was soundly beaten by State Blue on almost same wt. terms the last time they met in East Cape Breeders Stakes similar event C/D.

In this situation forget what the tipster on course had to say b'cos the student of form already had his basis for making State Blue a banker.The betting dealt a decisive low blow as the Hurricane blew in from what 40 to 1 to 15 to 1 and somebody got the loot.

This is one of the problems James is alluding to and there are many similar examples.