asad rauf - umpire

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asad rauf - umpire

12 years 8 months ago
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The experts predicted a runaway win by india . What bull . Over-rated players living on reputation against a team hungry for victory . Balanced game that could have went either way and then Asad Rauf happens . A shocking lbw decision where the ball strikes the bat ( clear gap ) and then the pad . Given , that barring that decision India would still have won , but it was crucial for Afghanistan's momentum . But let's take a step back , Rauf is dealing with a hot , controversial topic right now with an indian model . She claims that Rauf has promised to marry her , which he denies and has posted pictures of them together . The ICC should consider these situations in appointing umpires , especially Rauf's link to an indian model and then getting him to umpire an indian game . Obviously hard to prove match-fixing but his decision's surely would be influenced .

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Re: Re: asad rauf - umpire

12 years 8 months ago
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Not sure about the match fixing innuendo.... but that was a shocking decision. In 'live' the inside edge was obvious, as was the double noise.... and how about the height as well ...above the roll :S

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Re: Re: asad rauf - umpire

12 years 8 months ago
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To bring you back to the referees implicated in match-fixing ( soccer ) , cricket's no different . I also would not have believed if Agassi was accused of taking drugs ( which he now openly talks about ) and a 7 time tour-de-france winner being stripped of his titles .

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12 years 8 months ago
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With match fixing you would hardly see someone trying to fix the 1/125 on India rather pay the umpire to rule in favour of Afganistan at 50/1. It was a poor decision but Rauf generally gets them write and the all do make mistakes.

A few years ago we only had 1 neutral umpire anyway to say because of who you are dating or married to you can't umpire matches for them is ridiculous. Where do you stop nationality of parents, grand parents, cousins.

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Re: Re: asad rauf - umpire

12 years 8 months ago
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guess you did not watch the game , the decision was match altering . very negative to my theory but it's people like you that defend because it's the easy thing to do , but retreat into your shell when proved wrong . you must have also agreed with kepler wessels when he said that hashin amla would never make it on the international scene . just to re-iterate , the relationship is a controversial one ( google it ) , understand the situation and then comment . it would give this forum some respect and then every topic would not become a slugging match . respect .

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12 years 8 months ago
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Ravin I did watch the game and Afganistan were never going to score 160 regardless of the decision which I agreed was poor. You are obviously talking from your pocket. Even if contraversial his personal life has no bearing on what matches he can umpire or not. Isn't it speculation at tte stage anyway? What if Taufel starts seeing an SA lady tomorrow who he promises to marry can he not umpire any SA matches.

Bottom line he is human it was a shocker but IMO never altered the outcome of the game, which you also stated. Can you imagine the selection process for umpires if what you are stating should go through.

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Re: Re: asad rauf - umpire

12 years 8 months ago
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To avoid controversy , again imo , the ICC should have sent Rauf on leave or any other stupid excuse to not lend themselves to further finger pointing ( review system not being used is stupid enough ) . I believe that Afghanistan would have got 160 , they only lost by 24 ( couple of boundaries ) . With due respect to the 20/20 format , anything is possible . If you remember when Pollard was an unknown , came in at no 6 and his team were trading at 500/1 and led them to a win with a couple balls to spare . Pieterson is exiled from ECB because of what he did in a personal capacity ( or so he thought ) . This should explain as to why people in the public eye should be careful of their off-field antics as this shapes them in the capacity that they fulfill , in this case , a person with bad personal choices given an opportunity to influence a game between Afghanistan ( muslim country - him being muslim ) and India ( his controversial relationship ) . Sorry to disappoint but i am indian and when South Africa is not playing i support India , it's just that an injustice was done and many factors , as i understand it , contributed to this .

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12 years 8 months ago
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Ravin, with your name I concluded that you were Indian, there are a large amount of posters here are of Indian decent. I don't quite work out how this dissapoints me. :S

In your post at 12:16 you state, "A shocking lbw decision where the ball strikes the bat ( clear gap ) and then the pad . Given , that barring that decision India would still have won." Now at 2:44 you state, "I believe that Afghanistan would have got 160 , they only lost by 24 ( couple of boundaries )". So which one is it and 24 runs in a T20 is a lot of runs not just a couple (2) of boundries. :S

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Re: Re: asad rauf - umpire

12 years 8 months ago
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"talking from your pocket " suggests that i bet against india . I am not going to play mind/word games with you and detract from the point . If you are trying to prove that i am contradicting myself in trying to prove my point then it will become a slugging match . It's been a while since i posted and that was because of a slugging match previously where i liked a 20/1 ( karl nesius on cool river ) and explained my conspiracy theory as to the jocks association to the owners and a few fellow posters came down heavy on me ( the horse won ). It seems that i will have to back down and concede to you sir . Thanks and bye .

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Re: Re: asad rauf - umpire

12 years 8 months ago
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Ravin, I am not trying to have a slugging match with you, I just disagree that someone should not be taken out of their job because of speculation. He did go out with her but it is her word against his that he promissed to marry her. Bye.

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Re: Re: asad rauf - umpire

12 years 8 months ago
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You could be right about something Ravin, and it's good to have people who bring to attention where possible cheating could be taking place.

And you being an India supporter in the match against Afghanistan, somebody else would have chuckled quietly and said let him stick the Afghans away.(tu)

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Re: Re: asad rauf - umpire

12 years 8 months ago
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Yes it was a bad decision - shit happens - but to suggest that the umpire should have been substituded - surely not - as shrek says, where do you draw the line - and the Afghans only had themselves to blame by dropping 2 easy catches - wait a minute - perhaps they had a bet on India :S

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