Durbanville race 2 - Stipes

blueyonder001 Wrote:

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> won on merit well done boys

well said blueY...the 2nd horse given every chance and both ran true to their form...

Top ride Andrew...

Well the best horse won easily

that first start to Victorian secret was an excellent run and form franked - shat in no race stipes can watch that as long as they want and only one result - lonely

blueyonder001 Wrote:

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> won on merit well done boys

Thank you boet. If it was not for I would have backed the wrong one.
After I lost in the first, I took an ATC with the favourites in the 2nd , 3rd and 4th.

Hoping now for a favourable result.

Was race 4 bent ? i`m sure Karl could lose an irn Deliberatley ? ()

blueyonder001 Wrote:

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> that first start to Victorian secret was an
> excellent run and form franked - shat in no race
> stipes can watch that as long as they want and
> only one result - lonely


Well VS runs wed........watch her.....

Hi everyone. Been out whole day but heard about this post. After reading the posts carefully I notice that Johanm did mention the punter. I PERSONALLY DO NOT KNOW THIS PUNTER but have also heard the story of certain accounts being closed/limited,

Question to Johanm. Do you know this punter personally? As I also find your knowledge of his activities very intersting!!!

I personally find nothing wrong, as for one if this punter has the balls to put his money down, good for him. To the certain bookies that has cut his limit/closed his acccount, you are gutless thieves who only want the losers to punt. If you are prepared to give someone a limit to start with , why do you decrease it. You make a decision, stick to it. If he lost, you would not have done it, you most probably increased his limits and thats a FACT!! I know because I know someone who lost plenty to one of you bookmakers and not once did you actually limit him.....because he was losing. You took his money with a faaking smile. And I am talking millions, not 20k or 100k.
You bookies are the thieves in this game, not the jockeys or the punters or the trainers or owners. Hats off the credible bookies around as there are.

Back to Johanm, I personally think you on a personal mission. There are many jockeys out there tipping horse and they dont arrive. When a couple do, you want to post and accuse people and bring SA racing fraternity into disrepute.... Shame on you.

YOU have to prove that the race was fixed because to fix the race you need more than than one jockey to do it. CAN YOU DO THAT?
If Andrew Fortune(and I dont know him personally either) works a horse and he feels it works well and tells someone, and this someone has the nerve to put his hard earned cash down, what crime has anyone done. And with this in mind, obviously there will be betting changes. You will have to report all of us here as there are trainers telling us on this site whether their horses worked well or not. It is still up to the punter to go and punt or not. And like it or not, us punters are also part of the life and soul of racing in this country. A BIG PART!!!!

johanm Wrote:

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> On Thursday a certain punter attempted to have a
> massive bet on Rainbow Dash in race 2. Bookmakers
> found this to be highly suspicious. To add fuel to
> the fire both the jockey of Rainbow Dash and the
> punter were spotted together in Port Elizabeth
> together on Thursday night. The punter in question
> has already had his accounts closed or limited by
> the biggest bookmakers in the country. It's not
> wright that he is trying to make a fortune in this
> manner.

so what has happen about this fearie tale told by mr johanm?

i here the fearie tale of my own so lets see if this is the WRIGHT one johanm?

the story is simple, a big owner in pe is hitting the bookies hard. i here that he has had some big bets and the bets they arrive like the soldiers, this i dont think is any thing wrong? the problem come when he hit one bookie hard and be fore the bookie can take the bet back the price is shorten so the bookie take the risk and get punish. now the bookie is bitter, off course the punter must be doing some thing wrong! now the punter is seen talk to jockey! what the joke.

the trainer who tell me the story tell me they beleve johanm and harris are the same or work to gether. I ask again harris, where is the gg in harris? may be you are just the BET VICtim?