IS IT TIME TO GIVE UP PUNTING.

BETFAIR

I have said it before and I will say it again, bookmakers should be banned and all bets should be placed into a pool system.

There just is not enough money coming back to the operators to fund the sport. Yes we can all cry about the odds on the tote etc but unless we have dramatic stakes increases I cannot see the sport surviving with any prosperity in the long run.

unless the bookies grab only the "idiots", it would be much fairer, if all goes to the tote. for the sport and us

Saksy Wrote:

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> I have said it before and I will say it again,
> bookmakers should be banned and all bets should be
> placed into a pool system.
>
> There just is not enough money coming back to the
> operators to fund the sport. Yes we can all cry
> about the odds on the tote etc but unless we have
> dramatic stakes increases I cannot see the sport
> surviving with any prosperity in the long run.

saldiani: agree with you.

on principle (despite some reservations & attitude of operator, cannot kill the owners!), will support those who give us the opportunity to bet so that they can grow!

(tu)

RACING GURU Wrote:

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> BOOKIES ARE ALSO GREEDY ..thats my opening line
>
> i must say...my boet has won over a million with a
> certain bookie during october...mostly sports and
> about a 100 on the us elections...all doubles into
> the elections....so early this month he wasn't
> happy about the price he was quoted for a certain
> event ...so in his haste he told the bookie to
> close his account totally..
> so the bookie knows me ,because i introduced my
> boet to this bookie and asked me to have a word to
> my boet about closing the account..and this is
> what was said: and i quote"ITS CERTAINLY NOT IN
> OUR INTEREST NOW,TO LOSE ......(NAME
> MENTIONED),NOW ESPECIALLY AS WE HAVE ALREADY PAID
> HIM OUT SO MUCH,SO HAVE A CHAT WITH HIM AND MAKE
> HIM UNDERSTAND THAT THE CLERKS ON DUTY THAT DAY
> COULD NOT HAVE LAID HIM THAT PRICE WITHOUT
> MANAGEMENTS CONSENT ,BUT AFTER A MEETING WAS
> HELD,THEY HAVE BEEN ADVISED TO CALL
> MANAGEMENT.....NO MATTER WHAT TIME IT IS"..
>
> IT THEN MADE ME REALISE HOW BOOKIES THINK....THAT
> MONEY LOST TO A PUNTER MUST BE RECOUPED...but what
> doesn't make sense is why do u limit the
> punter...'cos after all these years and swings and
> round abouts..its obvious who the real winners
> are(the bookies surely)...so i think these bookies
> who limit bets actually need their business
> visions re-examined...because if anything i would
> increase the limits of a punter who is
> winning...get it back quicker if history is to be
> believed

I had a word with the self same bookie and he verified the figures...scary turn over RG

easy Wrote:

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> BETFAIR


Trouble is I like to do a few multi bets and Betfair isn't the place for that.

y

Flash Harry Wrote:

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> it is time to stop the punting when you stop
> enjoying the punt. if you enjou you will make the
> plan to get the bet. by the way you must be great
> punter if the bookies are so scared for you


Flash,I like to stake ew patents or ew lucky 15s.In reality they are mug bets.But with the bonuses you get on the Lucky 15 in UK,which is treble the odds
on one winner I find it a no lose bet most days.I like to take a early price to calculate potential winnings.I stake maybe £200 on my multis,no more.
I have run out of plans,I can stake the bet at the shops but cannot take the prices,I can take the prices on the Internet but am only allowed tiny stakes.
If you have a better idea I'm all ears

i

Flash Harry Wrote:

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> dave i no have the problem i bet very small now
> the big bet these day is only a grand no more i
> loose to much over the years. what i can tell you
> long before the internet is around is i can get
> the bet on a horse to win the hundreds of
> thousands and i do this plenty times. i talk now
> mid seventees and until early ninetees. i can get
> big bets from lot of book maker like les kourie,
> cyril sepel, hendrik prinsloo from pretoria tatts,
> walter wiegand, sedley barr, mac theba. all these
> guys will give me 6 figure on horse and at any
> price. you can ask them now about the mad greek i
> punt away plenty. now today we dont have the book
> maker. we have the @#$%& accountant and no the
> turf accountant either. these guys they give you
> 20 grand of a horse if you lucky. what the bunch
> of palookas, the problem is every one must now
> talk with "head office" where ever this is if you
> want a bet their is no bookie with balls


You are spot on Dimitri,accountants is the correct terminology

For the record:

Marshall's reverted to me and sorted out the closure of my account.... confirmed.

tnx
(tu)