Why must I give you tips? What do I get out of it?

titch it is the different world today these day you cant get 50k on a horse we do not have the bookies we have the accountants. where are the days when i walk into wits tatts or bruma and take 200k to win on the horse and the bookie say do you want more. a friend tell me the other day he have the horse running is 5/1 he want to put 8000 on so win 40000. the bookie refuse he give him 20000/4000 and short the horse from 5/1 to 2/1. this is not bookmaking it is stealing

where do you now me re?

Tried not to respond to anything here but for farksake guys. . .let it go ! I am in Ruby's camp here. Charity begins at home, pestering people for information is out of line, puts them on the spot and if they are wrong they are arseholes.

Flash I worked for Greg Botten at Newmarket when Mitch Weise was staying with the Kotzens and rode work for us, even those of us that did not know you personally all knew and spoke about "the mad Greek" ....

The Madji Wrote:

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> Tried not to respond to anything here but for
> farksake guys. . .let it go ! I am in Ruby's camp
> here. Charity begins at home, pestering people for
> information is out of line, puts them on the spot
> and if they are wrong they are arseholes.


(tu)(tu)(tu)(tu)

@Titch:
'...pestering people for
> information is out of line,...'


Yep, I also find some customers pretty intrusive with my business; they want to know what equipment I have, what I paid, where to source stocks, try to speak to my staff, etc (even canvass customers in my shop... the nerve!), etc.

That's people in all walks of life (like asking the butcher if it's genuine beef or donkey meat mix? Lol!)!

Whether I tell them or not.... I never ask / consider 'what's in it for me?'

Is that the difference in RubyClipper's moan?

The Madji Wrote:

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> Tried not to respond to anything here but for
> farksake guys. . .let it go ! I am in Ruby's camp
> here. Charity begins at home, pestering people for
> information is out of line, puts them on the spot
> and if they are wrong they are arseholes.


Then say " Please do not phone for tips " NOT What do I get out of it ? Two total different meanings !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Titch Wrote:

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> If an owner insists that the well being etc of his
> horses is not made public knowledge then the
> stable is obliged to adhere to these requests ,for
> eg Im sure that if any of us have an unraced horse
> that is working up a storm, we would not want the
> yard to yell it from the roof tops in the
> interests of transparency and if they did and the
> horse failed to reproduce the work on the track
> there is little doubt they would be slated and
> accused of misleading the racing public,imo it's a
> lose lose situation for any yard to divulge stable
> information unless they are fortunate enough to
> have their horses run up to their expectations on
> a regular basis and any racing person will know
> how unlikely that is...its the nature of the
> beast, horses are put on this planet to make fools
> of us all so I believe that we should respect the
> decisions of yards that choose not to discuss
> their runners and be thankful for those who are
> prepared to take the chance (Shams a good example)

Very well put Titch. People must also realise, as has been previously mentioned, an assistant is not necessarily at libert to divulge stable info. .

gg Wrote:

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> The Madji Wrote:
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> > Tried not to respond to anything here but for
> > farksake guys. . .let it go ! I am in Ruby's
> camp
> > here. Charity begins at home, pestering people
> for
> > information is out of line, puts them on the
> spot
> > and if they are wrong they are arseholes.
>
>
> Then say " Please do not phone for tips " NOT
> What do I get out of it ? Two total different
> meanings !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You guys take that too literally.... she was clearly at wits end with people ad nauseum asking for information ...... so she asked the question. WHY ? Why should she give information with no positive outcomes for herelf, but potential for negative.... is a losing proposition actually.

General stable info should be made public such as injuries, innoculations, fitness after layoff etc. Harassing a stable assissant to find out if a horse will win or not is out of order

Why would anyone want to ask a stable assistant what they like anyway.

They are stable assistants for a reason.

Einstein some stable assistants know more than anyone else in the stable... Looking for inside info from any one connected to racing has been around forever and will not change , ask family of trainers ,jocks and assistant trainers...:S

yeah, point is, if there was a system whereby relevant info could be harvested and made available on a consistent basis, punters would be satisfied, and there would be no need/reason to badger stable staff. It is not that they don't want to share the info - more that there is a lack of system which facilitates the flow of such info? onus on racing operators then?