Vaal Sand Thursday

mr hawaii Wrote:

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> WD Don -
> I give Festive Interlude a place chance in the
> last -

I like Scarletto to save the lads today, swinger 6/7. Shot Mr H (tu)

include Sparkling Saphire who is my Nagme choice

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> > > > i think it would be easier for MS to get to
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> > > > front in a fillies plate then up against FG
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> > > > Pylon..??
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> > > Any lucid explanation for Hunters Valley 61
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> > hi madji..badgers quest is a 3yo..so being a 70
> > minus the WFA of 10 pounds makes BQ a net
> > 60..hunters valley is a 4yo so no WFA over
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> > weighted to beat badgers quest by 1 pound..but
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> > probably added improvement..but on ratings was
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> runs on sand were nowhere near 61 !!!!!


Yes nowhere near 61, but today he had blinkers - so easy afterwards :

Race 9:Winner pushed 2nd horse much further off course than the neck she was beaten..........a race review at least,surely???

Wow....surprised.........had to watch the head on through the betting but looked worth a second look .
I don't think later replays ever include head ons ?

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> Race 9:Winner pushed 2nd horse much further off
> course than the neck she was beaten..........a
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I also thought so...... {shrug}... But my money was down on Rivulet so I am biaised

Tough old day - and thanks to Interbet being down, I could not get my 'cover' PA on, which would have given me my money back - anyway let's get ready for Guineas Day on Saturday -

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> > > the
> > > > > front in a fillies plate then up against
> FG
> > > and
> > > > > Pylon..??
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> > > > Any lucid explanation for Hunters Valley 61
> > vs
> > > 70
> > > > and a poor draw ? Other than first time on
> > sand
> > > > and raced off turf rating ?
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> > > hi madji..badgers quest is a 3yo..so being a
> 70
> > > minus the WFA of 10 pounds makes BQ a net
> > > 60..hunters valley is a 4yo so no WFA over
> > 1800m
> > > in feb..so Hunters Valley is a net
> > 61...therefore
> > > weighted to beat badgers quest by 1
> pound..but
> > i
> > > think it was HV first run on sand???? that
> > > probably added improvement..but on ratings
> was
> > > supposed to beat BQ
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> > pointless...................Hunter Valley's only
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> > runs on sand were nowhere near 61 !!!!!
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> so easy afterwards :


But I did have it in everything, P/A , P6 and swingers...BUT. mainly on the strength ofthe stable andthe weakness of the field. I seriously did believe Dragon Fay way way too short in the betting.

Serious question... does anyone question Leon Erasmus about Hunter Valley's run? And, if so, is there anywhere we can find out what was said? And, again, if so, what type of thing do they subsequently monitor regarding the horse and the trainer? And should a similar circumstance occur, what action is taken? Please don't treat this as a moan, it is a genuine question, not directed at LE in particular, just in general

Englander good luck with finding the answer !!!!

This is not Mauritius or Hong Kong !!

Well at least you replied thanks Solo (tu) and reading between the lines, that sort of gives me an answer (tu) ... oh dear!!!!