July Log 14/5/13
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Re: Re: July Log 14/5/13
12 years 3 weeks ago
20 to 1 Wrote:
> Apologies peeps. Does anyone have the final field
> for the DN2k??
Final Fields not released yet. We can expect some clarity in the coming weeks.
DAILY NEWS 2000
2 000m DAILY NEWS 2000 (Grade 1)
For 3-year-olds
Colts and Geldings: 58 kg, Fillies 55,5kg
Northern Hemisphere allowance applies
Entries 11:00 Friday, 17 May 2013 Fee: R 3 420
Supp Entries 11:00 Friday, 24 May 2013 Fee: R 6 840
Weights Friday, 24 May 2013
Declarations 11:00 Monday, 27 May 2013 Fee: R13 680
Stake : R1,500,000
> Apologies peeps. Does anyone have the final field
> for the DN2k??
Final Fields not released yet. We can expect some clarity in the coming weeks.
DAILY NEWS 2000
2 000m DAILY NEWS 2000 (Grade 1)
For 3-year-olds
Colts and Geldings: 58 kg, Fillies 55,5kg
Northern Hemisphere allowance applies
Entries 11:00 Friday, 17 May 2013 Fee: R 3 420
Supp Entries 11:00 Friday, 24 May 2013 Fee: R 6 840
Weights Friday, 24 May 2013
Declarations 11:00 Monday, 27 May 2013 Fee: R13 680
Stake : R1,500,000
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Re: Re: July Log 14/5/13
12 years 3 weeks ago
pirates Wrote:
> Tipster Wrote:
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> > Sylvester Wrote:
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> > > i think Wagner there because of his
> > connections.
> > > Cant be because of the summer cup win.
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> > > very solid top 20
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> > The Summer Cup is regarded as one of SA's top 3
> > races and winner is virtually an automatic for
> the
> > July, even if he's only merit rated 99. In fact
> > any Grade 1 winner is virtually an automatic.
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> so dave the summer cup on an average merit rating
> for the field would be on a par with the queens
> plate and the gold challenge over a mile at
> clairwood...dont think because the stake far
> exceeds those races that the quality of field is
> superior in fact is is way inferior......iv seen
> pinnacle plates have superior fields to the summer
> cup.....for many many years it has BEEN A REGIONAL
> RACE not attracting the best from the
> cape....another thing the fact that races have
> group one two or 3 is for the stud book and the
> guineas in natal being a group 2 race shows how
> flawed it is....the summer cup is no more than a
> group 2 at best equal to the july consolation race
> thart is held on july day
I was just commenting on the usual criteria the panel use - I've never known a Grade 1 winner not to get in.
> Tipster Wrote:
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> > Sylvester Wrote:
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> > > i think Wagner there because of his
> > connections.
> > > Cant be because of the summer cup win.
> > >
> > > very solid top 20
> >
> > The Summer Cup is regarded as one of SA's top 3
> > races and winner is virtually an automatic for
> the
> > July, even if he's only merit rated 99. In fact
> > any Grade 1 winner is virtually an automatic.
>
>
> so dave the summer cup on an average merit rating
> for the field would be on a par with the queens
> plate and the gold challenge over a mile at
> clairwood...dont think because the stake far
> exceeds those races that the quality of field is
> superior in fact is is way inferior......iv seen
> pinnacle plates have superior fields to the summer
> cup.....for many many years it has BEEN A REGIONAL
> RACE not attracting the best from the
> cape....another thing the fact that races have
> group one two or 3 is for the stud book and the
> guineas in natal being a group 2 race shows how
> flawed it is....the summer cup is no more than a
> group 2 at best equal to the july consolation race
> thart is held on july day
I was just commenting on the usual criteria the panel use - I've never known a Grade 1 winner not to get in.
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Re: Re: July Log 14/5/13
12 years 3 weeks ago
Benevolent Wrote:
> Where is True Master on the list, does the EP
> derby carry that little sway? What is True
> Master's new rating?
Was a 90 on his last run but hasn't been carded to run again. Snaith might be looking at the Daily News 2000 for this colt... Just my opinion though.
> Where is True Master on the list, does the EP
> derby carry that little sway? What is True
> Master's new rating?
Was a 90 on his last run but hasn't been carded to run again. Snaith might be looking at the Daily News 2000 for this colt... Just my opinion though.
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Re: Re: July Log 14/5/13
12 years 3 weeks ago
Benevolent Wrote:
> Where is True Master on the list, does the EP
> derby carry that little sway? What is True
> Master's new rating?
Ssssssshhhhh.....was 330/1......now 200/1........miss the Daily News and come into The ?july with bottom weight....interesting option.....if he was to get into the race.
> Where is True Master on the list, does the EP
> derby carry that little sway? What is True
> Master's new rating?
Ssssssshhhhh.....was 330/1......now 200/1........miss the Daily News and come into The ?july with bottom weight....interesting option.....if he was to get into the race.
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Re: Re: July Log 14/5/13
12 years 3 weeks ago
Tipster Wrote:
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> I was just commenting on the usual criteria the
> panel use - I've never known a Grade 1 winner not
> to get in.
maybe it shouldn't be a grade 1 when you only carry 52,5kg to win, we should call it a grade 0.85 for the missing 15 lbs lol.
there has been two wins from the top 10 in the subsequent 6 months, so it needs to warm up a bit in a hurry
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> I was just commenting on the usual criteria the
> panel use - I've never known a Grade 1 winner not
> to get in.
maybe it shouldn't be a grade 1 when you only carry 52,5kg to win, we should call it a grade 0.85 for the missing 15 lbs lol.
there has been two wins from the top 10 in the subsequent 6 months, so it needs to warm up a bit in a hurry
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Re: Re: July Log 14/5/13
12 years 3 weeks ago
Benevolent Wrote:
> Where is True Master on the list, does the EP
> derby carry that little sway? What is True
> Master's new rating?
True Master MR 95
> Where is True Master on the list, does the EP
> derby carry that little sway? What is True
> Master's new rating?
True Master MR 95
Give everything but up!
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Re: Re: July Log 14/5/13
12 years 3 weeks ago
?.....in recent years and I stand corrected......the minimum MR for final field has been 103.......:S
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Re: Re: July Log 14/5/13
12 years 3 weeks ago
I think that list is a joke - hopefully one of the better ways to judge a horse's ability, is its MR - so how come a horse like Zambucca is not even in the top 30?
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Re: Re: July Log 14/5/13
12 years 3 weeks ago
Is master plan nominated for any races any time soon? Can't believe at a mr of 111 he's not in the top 20.
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Re: Re: July Log 14/5/13
12 years 3 weeks ago
Titch Wrote:
> Benevolent Wrote:
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> > Where is True Master on the list, does the EP
> > derby carry that little sway? What is True
> > Master's new rating?
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> True Master MR 95
Thanks, still very much under rated. Will be at level weights in the DN but could be carrying a nice low weight come July day, provided he qualifies of course.
> Benevolent Wrote:
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> > Where is True Master on the list, does the EP
> > derby carry that little sway? What is True
> > Master's new rating?
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> True Master MR 95
Thanks, still very much under rated. Will be at level weights in the DN but could be carrying a nice low weight come July day, provided he qualifies of course.
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