Strydom Not Riding His Mounts To The Line

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Re: Re: Strydom Not Riding His Mounts To The Line

12 years 3 weeks ago
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hibernia Wrote:
> ItsAllOver Wrote:
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> > If the horse is not good enough its not good
> > enough, do you EXPECT THE JOCKEY TO CARRY THE
> > ANIMAL. If only people would talk with there
> > opinions and not there wallets, ranting and
> raving
> > over shit that you cant change. Study form back
> a
> > winner smile back a loser have another punt.
> > GAMBLING IS ADDICTIVE PLEASE CALL 0800$#%@#%$
> FOR

> > HELP

>
>

> A 4th place can be just important to a punter than
> a 1st place

Well said hibs u took the words right out of my mouth. Wanna c what pulse and itsallover got to say when they beaten that shd for 3rd place and go out the pa for jock not riding

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Re: Re: Strydom Not Riding His Mounts To The Line

12 years 3 weeks ago
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ItsAllOver Wrote:
> If the horse is not good enough its not good
> enough, do you EXPECT THE JOCKEY TO CARRY THE
> ANIMAL. If only people would talk with there
> opinions and not there wallets, ranting and raving
> over shit that you cant change. Study form back a
> winner smile back a loser have another punt.
> GAMBLING IS ADDICTIVE PLEASE CALL 0800$#%@#%$ FOR
> HELP

Punting is NOT all about backing winners.
The aim of the game is all about making money.
PA, trifecta's, quartet's are also bets that are favoured by most.

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Re: Re: Strydom Not Riding His Mounts To The Line

12 years 3 weeks ago
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ItsAllOver Wrote:
> If the horse is not good enough its not good
> enough, do you EXPECT THE JOCKEY TO CARRY THE
> ANIMAL. If only people would talk with there
> opinions and not there wallets, ranting and raving
> over shit that you cant change. Study form back a
> winner smile back a loser have another punt.
> GAMBLING IS ADDICTIVE PLEASE CALL 0800$#%@#%$ FOR
> HELP

I tried that number
It was engaged....:D

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Re: Re: Strydom Not Riding His Mounts To The Line

12 years 3 weeks ago
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I presume not too many posters watched his riding on Sunday......

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Re: Re: Strydom Not Riding His Mounts To The Line

12 years 3 weeks ago
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WESTERN EXPLORER Wrote:
> I presume not too many posters watched his riding
> on Sunday......

WE... one day's riding does not mean that on another day he won't cost punters/owners money. I have found many of his rides "odd" lately and have said so on threads but with little or no feedback. I have also thought that PS does not always ride to the full once he knows he is not going to win. If that is correct, that doesn't make him a bad jockey, just one that perhaps still has "room for improvement" in terms of getting owners and punters the best, if any, return. He is not going to come on here to justify himself but it might help if, when someone does question one of his rides, someone else gives an argument to the contrary if they see it differently... it may end in amicable disagreement but it might help the questioner see the ride with a different perspective. I can't get educated if no-one explains or says I'm right (Maestro excepted) and just thinks me stupid for not blindly seeing the brilliance of PS.

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Re: Re: Strydom Not Riding His Mounts To The Line

12 years 3 weeks ago
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When asked why he doesn't always ride to the line he says "I know when a horse won't run in the first 5 places, I can feel it dying under me, why now push it and hit it for trying its best? I know at the end of the day that animal will go back to it's box tired but hopefully sound and eat up its food, not distressed and sore. Why teach it to hate racing? Leave it intact to earn another day when its fitter, smarter or in a weaker field"

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Re: Re: Strydom Not Riding His Mounts To The Line

12 years 3 weeks ago
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SpookE Wrote:
> When asked why he doesn't always ride to the line
> he says "I know when a horse won't run in the
> first 5 places, I can feel it dying under me, why
> now push it and hit it for trying its best? I know
> at the end of the day that animal will go back to
> it's box tired but hopefully sound and eat up its
> food, not distressed and sore. Why teach it to
> hate racing? Leave it intact to earn another day
> when its fitter, smarter or in a weaker field"


Kierron Fallon does the exact same,never punishes tired horses...

But do the rules not state that horses should be ridden to achieve the highest possible finishing position?

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Re: Re: Strydom Not Riding His Mounts To The Line

12 years 3 weeks ago
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hibernia Wrote:
> SpookE Wrote:
>
>
> > When asked why he doesn't always ride to the
> line
> > he says "I know when a horse won't run in the
> > first 5 places, I can feel it dying under me,
> why
> > now push it and hit it for trying its best? I
> know
> > at the end of the day that animal will go back
> to
> > it's box tired but hopefully sound and eat up
> its
> > food, not distressed and sore. Why teach it to
> > hate racing? Leave it intact to earn another
> day
> > when its fitter, smarter or in a weaker field"
>
>
> Kierron Fallon does the exact same,never punishes
> tired horses...
>
> But do the rules not state that horses should be
> ridden to achieve the highest possible finishing
> position?


@SpookE - great quote and Striker do put safety and care of horses he is on first , will never see any of his mounts return distressed . True horseman and best rider for all the right reasons
@ Hibs- how many places did strydom missed by not riding a tiring horse into the ground and how many races have he won or place with horses handicapped not to have a chance ? He is phenomenal horseman that now get criticized "out of the pocket" but I never see them bowing to his masterful rides to bring home horses they have money on.


He is not just a champion jockey , he is a masterful horseman.(tu)

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Re: Re: Strydom Not Riding His Mounts To The Line

12 years 3 weeks ago
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hibernia Wrote:
> SpookE Wrote:
>
>
> > When asked why he doesn't always ride to the
> line
> > he says "I know when a horse won't run in the
> > first 5 places, I can feel it dying under me,
> why
> > now push it and hit it for trying its best? I
> know
> > at the end of the day that animal will go back
> to
> > it's box tired but hopefully sound and eat up
> its
> > food, not distressed and sore. Why teach it to
> > hate racing? Leave it intact to earn another
> day
> > when its fitter, smarter or in a weaker field"
>
>
> Kierron Fallon does the exact same,never punishes
> tired horses...
>
> But do the rules not state that horses should be
> ridden to achieve the highest possible finishing
> position?

The rules also state you may only hit a horse so many times and no markings may be left on a horse. He expressly stated that he will always ride to finish in they money, but what good does 9th instead of 10th do anybody? I'm sure if the stipes suspected any funny business they would have called him in. Once of the main reasons racing has a bad reputation is the perceived cruelty to horses by trashing them to the finish.

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Re: Re: Strydom Not Riding His Mounts To The Line

12 years 3 weeks ago
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I think it's unfair he is being singled out.....if u want to have this discussion then analyse every single jockey in every single race.....These guys are human and they will make mistakes...just lIke he did on Friday....but he will always Make amends in the future....different horses for different courses and different jockeys For different horses....

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Re: Re: Strydom Not Riding His Mounts To The Line

12 years 3 weeks ago
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On Sunday he rode horses that were divisions above there fields. The ratings of horses in p e should be way lower. No ways that a merit 80 in p e is the same as an 80 in the bigger centres!

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Re: Re: Strydom Not Riding His Mounts To The Line

12 years 3 weeks ago
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SpookE Wrote:
> When asked why he doesn't always ride to the line
> he says "I know when a horse won't run in the
> first 5 places, I can feel it dying under me, why
> now push it and hit it for trying its best? I know
> at the end of the day that animal will go back to
> it's box tired but hopefully sound and eat up its
> food, not distressed and sore. Why teach it to
> hate racing? Leave it intact to earn another day
> when its fitter, smarter or in a weaker field"

Spook we need more of you in this country mate , many more (tu)

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