NOT BURGER KING..... ADAMS! EISH!
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12 years 2 weeks ago
Just popped in to read about the race 7 scandal today
and came across this 'interesting topic'
Does one really know what an animal goes
thro' in a slaughter house,prayers or no prayers?
The animals in the queue smell the blood and hear
the squeals of the ones being slaughtered,
they start to panick and pass stool and urine
and their blood release poisonous toxins 'cos
of the agitation, shock and horror of what is
about to happen to them(natural reaction for a living entity).
Those people who live in ignorance and enjoy meat-eating, ask no
questions and debate none,
those who would like to know the truth, do some research
and most importantly, visit a slaugther house, prayers or not.
and came across this 'interesting topic'
Does one really know what an animal goes
thro' in a slaughter house,prayers or no prayers?
The animals in the queue smell the blood and hear
the squeals of the ones being slaughtered,
they start to panick and pass stool and urine
and their blood release poisonous toxins 'cos
of the agitation, shock and horror of what is
about to happen to them(natural reaction for a living entity).
Those people who live in ignorance and enjoy meat-eating, ask no
questions and debate none,
those who would like to know the truth, do some research
and most importantly, visit a slaugther house, prayers or not.
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12 years 2 weeks ago
The term halaal encompasses more then the issue of what may or may not be eaten.For obvious reasons the dirty pig from which you get bacon is strictly forbidden
So how you earn your living also falls in this discussion of halaal or haraam.
The eating of food bought by money gained by condemned practices(usury ,gambling etc) is not halaal.This is only one of the aspect of what the appeal is probably about.I am no expert ay anything so dint hold me to my word.
But what's the great interest.Is this another Muslim bashing opportunity.
Come on guys.Some of you need to mellow.You make it easy ti hurt peoples feelings.
So how you earn your living also falls in this discussion of halaal or haraam.
The eating of food bought by money gained by condemned practices(usury ,gambling etc) is not halaal.This is only one of the aspect of what the appeal is probably about.I am no expert ay anything so dint hold me to my word.
But what's the great interest.Is this another Muslim bashing opportunity.
Come on guys.Some of you need to mellow.You make it easy ti hurt peoples feelings.
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Re: Re: NOT BURGER KING..... ADAMS! EISH!
12 years 2 weeks ago
zaeem Wrote:
> The term halaal encompasses more then the issue of
> what may or may not be eaten.For obvious reasons
> the dirty pig from which you get bacon is
> strictly forbidden
> So how you earn your living also falls in this
> discussion of halaal or haraam.
> The eating of food bought by money gained by
> condemned practices(usury ,gambling etc) is not
> halaal.This is only one of the aspect of what the
> appeal is probably about.I am no expert ay
> anything so dint hold me to my word.
> But what's the great interest.Is this another
> Muslim bashing opportunity.
> Come on guys.Some of you need to mellow.You make
> it easy ti hurt peoples feelings.
Thanks Zaeem for the clarity. You are right...people need to mellow out. So please don't refer to the pig as dirty, after all, it is still God's creation, and if anyone choses to eat, so be it.
I would also like to know what the other condemned practices mentioned above might be (fraud, theft, tax evasion etc??), and who monitors all of these to ensure compliance.
Just my opinion, but if Mr Adam's is breaking the Islamic Law with his business dealings, then the muslims must not support his business because they too will be transgressing. So no muslim customers = no need for halaal certification:S
No brainer to me.
> The term halaal encompasses more then the issue of
> what may or may not be eaten.For obvious reasons
> the dirty pig from which you get bacon is
> strictly forbidden
> So how you earn your living also falls in this
> discussion of halaal or haraam.
> The eating of food bought by money gained by
> condemned practices(usury ,gambling etc) is not
> halaal.This is only one of the aspect of what the
> appeal is probably about.I am no expert ay
> anything so dint hold me to my word.
> But what's the great interest.Is this another
> Muslim bashing opportunity.
> Come on guys.Some of you need to mellow.You make
> it easy ti hurt peoples feelings.
Thanks Zaeem for the clarity. You are right...people need to mellow out. So please don't refer to the pig as dirty, after all, it is still God's creation, and if anyone choses to eat, so be it.
I would also like to know what the other condemned practices mentioned above might be (fraud, theft, tax evasion etc??), and who monitors all of these to ensure compliance.
Just my opinion, but if Mr Adam's is breaking the Islamic Law with his business dealings, then the muslims must not support his business because they too will be transgressing. So no muslim customers = no need for halaal certification:S
No brainer to me.
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Re: Re: NOT BURGER KING..... ADAMS! EISH!
12 years 2 weeks ago
zaeem Wrote:
> The term halaal encompasses more then the issue of
> what may or may not be eaten.For obvious reasons
> the dirty pig from which you get bacon is
> strictly forbidden
> So how you earn your living also falls in this
> discussion of halaal or haraam.
> The eating of food bought by money gained by
> condemned practices(usury ,gambling etc) is not
> halaal.This is only one of the aspect of what the
> appeal is probably about.I am no expert ay
> anything so dint hold me to my word.
> But what's the great interest.Is this another
> Muslim bashing opportunity.
> Come on guys.Some of you need to mellow.You make
> it easy ti hurt peoples feelings.
What is the problem with the pig?
> The term halaal encompasses more then the issue of
> what may or may not be eaten.For obvious reasons
> the dirty pig from which you get bacon is
> strictly forbidden
> So how you earn your living also falls in this
> discussion of halaal or haraam.
> The eating of food bought by money gained by
> condemned practices(usury ,gambling etc) is not
> halaal.This is only one of the aspect of what the
> appeal is probably about.I am no expert ay
> anything so dint hold me to my word.
> But what's the great interest.Is this another
> Muslim bashing opportunity.
> Come on guys.Some of you need to mellow.You make
> it easy ti hurt peoples feelings.
What is the problem with the pig?
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12 years 2 weeks ago
The biggest hypocrites in the world.....religeous types and crusaders
Let me explain...
I was at the "old flour mill" cape town in january. Went to the food stalls and order some chow, i asked for a coke. I was told
"sir we dont sell any coke products here, we just dont supprt that company"
I replied
"okay BUT i work for coca cola and the money i am using for the sandwich comes from coke."
" mmmm sir no one ever said that before, sir come back, sir do you still want the sandwich, hello sir can you hear me"
"fkcu off"
Its the same with halaal and this ATTACK on Mr adams. YOU can t make up rules as you go along, i am typing this and eating bacon, does that make my thread DIRTY?
OR
When Sheik Mo (islamist) collects stakes from a race he just won in Hong Kong and the MONEY some directly from gambling does he give it back
I was in Scotland for 2 days this week, they have the best words to reply to this hypocritycal bollox
"go away and think again"
Let me explain...
I was at the "old flour mill" cape town in january. Went to the food stalls and order some chow, i asked for a coke. I was told
"sir we dont sell any coke products here, we just dont supprt that company"
I replied
"okay BUT i work for coca cola and the money i am using for the sandwich comes from coke."
" mmmm sir no one ever said that before, sir come back, sir do you still want the sandwich, hello sir can you hear me"
"fkcu off"
Its the same with halaal and this ATTACK on Mr adams. YOU can t make up rules as you go along, i am typing this and eating bacon, does that make my thread DIRTY?
OR
When Sheik Mo (islamist) collects stakes from a race he just won in Hong Kong and the MONEY some directly from gambling does he give it back
I was in Scotland for 2 days this week, they have the best words to reply to this hypocritycal bollox
"go away and think again"
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12 years 2 weeks ago
Gentlemen! Order please!
In none of the ME countries do we come across Halaal certification. Religious interpretation amongst all the belief systems devolve upon priests / mullahs / rabbis, etc.
As such, interpretation of Halaal (acceptable) and Haraam (forbidden) is subject to the various schools and sects (Sunni, Shia, Wahhabi, Ismaili, etc) in terms of jurisprudence.
Herein, the practice of Halaal is not a ritual but a requirement that, in taking the life of an animal, the name of the Creator be mentioned; there is nothing sacrilegious about it or some religious anathema / connotation. Also, that the blood releases all the impurities. There are schools of thought which decry the stringent Halaal requirements as being enforced locally.
In the ME Muslims visit and eat at the homes of fellow Christians, Jews and Zoroastrians without raising a storm!
However, when it comes to gambling, living off interest, prostitution and alcohol, that's a different kettle of fish altogether; totally forbidden!
Coming from a background of a 'mixed' belief system where my ancestors were and family members are Christians, Khoisan, Hindus, African, German, Dutch, and whatever else..... my approach is based on mutual respect; a human being first.
Yes, nobody likes to be bashed and stereotyped; white, black or brown, Muslim, Hindu, Christian, Jew or heathen!
In none of the ME countries do we come across Halaal certification. Religious interpretation amongst all the belief systems devolve upon priests / mullahs / rabbis, etc.
As such, interpretation of Halaal (acceptable) and Haraam (forbidden) is subject to the various schools and sects (Sunni, Shia, Wahhabi, Ismaili, etc) in terms of jurisprudence.
Herein, the practice of Halaal is not a ritual but a requirement that, in taking the life of an animal, the name of the Creator be mentioned; there is nothing sacrilegious about it or some religious anathema / connotation. Also, that the blood releases all the impurities. There are schools of thought which decry the stringent Halaal requirements as being enforced locally.
In the ME Muslims visit and eat at the homes of fellow Christians, Jews and Zoroastrians without raising a storm!
However, when it comes to gambling, living off interest, prostitution and alcohol, that's a different kettle of fish altogether; totally forbidden!
Coming from a background of a 'mixed' belief system where my ancestors were and family members are Christians, Khoisan, Hindus, African, German, Dutch, and whatever else..... my approach is based on mutual respect; a human being first.
Yes, nobody likes to be bashed and stereotyped; white, black or brown, Muslim, Hindu, Christian, Jew or heathen!
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Re: Re: NOT BURGER KING..... ADAMS! EISH!
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Brother Umllo
"However, when it comes to gambling, living off interest, prostitution and alcohol, that's a different kettle of fish altogether; totally forbidden!"
BIUT in 2013 its impossible to avoid certain things, and as a business man that grows an empire its hard to sit round the boardroom and make changes that impact on profit.
I watched a show about investment and how things work. The Aamish (spelling needs sorting) have trillions and they HAVE TO INVEST, turns out 1 of their investments is Hilton Group and Hilton group on their yearly profit 3% is derived from PORNOGRAPHIC movies in their hotels.
Dilema
Either get a lower yielding investment or shut t f up and collect your dividends every year.
"However, when it comes to gambling, living off interest, prostitution and alcohol, that's a different kettle of fish altogether; totally forbidden!"
BIUT in 2013 its impossible to avoid certain things, and as a business man that grows an empire its hard to sit round the boardroom and make changes that impact on profit.
I watched a show about investment and how things work. The Aamish (spelling needs sorting) have trillions and they HAVE TO INVEST, turns out 1 of their investments is Hilton Group and Hilton group on their yearly profit 3% is derived from PORNOGRAPHIC movies in their hotels.
Dilema
Either get a lower yielding investment or shut t f up and collect your dividends every year.
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When Al Mufti ran in the Durban July of his year there was also an outcry from a Muslim community as apparently the word "Al Mufti" for a horse may have been offensive. When this particular community discovered who owned the horse the silence was deafening.
I wonder what the Aga Khan, or Khalid ibn Abdullah, or Ahmed bin Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud, or Fahd bin Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud, or Faisal bin Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud, or Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum, or Rashid bin Saeed Maktoum, et al, would all say about this Pagad/Burger King nonsense.
I wonder what the Aga Khan, or Khalid ibn Abdullah, or Ahmed bin Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud, or Fahd bin Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud, or Faisal bin Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud, or Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum, or Rashid bin Saeed Maktoum, et al, would all say about this Pagad/Burger King nonsense.
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Mac Wrote:
> When Al Mufti ran in the Durban July of his year
> there was also an outcry from a Muslim community
> as apparently the word "Al Mufti" for a horse may
> have been offensive. When this particular
> community discovered who owned the horse the
> silence was deafening.
>
> I wonder what the Aga Khan, or Khalid ibn
> Abdullah, or Ahmed bin Salman bin Abdulaziz Al
> Saud, or Fahd bin Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud, or
> Faisal bin Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud, or
> Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum, or Rashid bin
> Saeed Maktoum, et al, would all say about this
> Pagad/Burger King nonsense.
Do they own casinos and establishments that sell alcohol?
> When Al Mufti ran in the Durban July of his year
> there was also an outcry from a Muslim community
> as apparently the word "Al Mufti" for a horse may
> have been offensive. When this particular
> community discovered who owned the horse the
> silence was deafening.
>
> I wonder what the Aga Khan, or Khalid ibn
> Abdullah, or Ahmed bin Salman bin Abdulaziz Al
> Saud, or Fahd bin Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud, or
> Faisal bin Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud, or
> Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum, or Rashid bin
> Saeed Maktoum, et al, would all say about this
> Pagad/Burger King nonsense.
Do they own casinos and establishments that sell alcohol?
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12 years 2 weeks ago
Maak al die Bulle Bokke.
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Tolla van der Merwe always said that everything was uitgehalaal....so jy kon eet wat jy wil.

Tolla van der Merwe always said that everything was uitgehalaal....so jy kon eet wat jy wil.

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Ou Ryperd Wrote:
> Maak al die Bulle Bokke.
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> Tolla van der Merwe always said that everything
> was uitgehalaal....so jy kon eet wat jy wil.
LOL
> Maak al die Bulle Bokke.

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> Tolla van der Merwe always said that everything
> was uitgehalaal....so jy kon eet wat jy wil.

LOL
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