NOT BURGER KING..... ADAMS! EISH!
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NOT BURGER KING..... ADAMS! EISH!
12 years 2 weeks ago
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The Muslim Judicial Council will hold a "fatwa committee" meeting today in Cape Town to decide if the Burger King outlet in the city should have its halaal certificate revoked.
Last week, People Against Gangsterism and Drugs (Pagad) called for one of Burger King's primary shareholders, Hassen Adams, to be investigated by Muslim organisations because of his involvement in the gaming industry.
There are just over 1.2million Muslims in Cape Town so halaal certification is important for many fast-food businesses in the city.
Burger King opened its first outlet in South Africa, in Cape Town, two weeks ago.
Adams, whose Grand Parade Investments operates the local Burger King franchise, is also one of the BEE shareholders in the Grand West Casino and is a prominent owner of race horses.
Pagad spokesman Abdullah Salie said the organisation had no objections to Burger King's entry into the local market.
"We're simply speaking from an Islamic perspective because the owner is involved in a gambling establishment [Grand West Casino] and it's money that is derived from a business that causes devastation among many families," said Salie.
In the 1990s Pagad became infamous for an urban campaign that at first focused on attacking drug dealers and known gangsters but later allegedly targeted the police and justice system officials.
Most of its leaders who were jailed at that time have since been released from prison and the organisation relaunched itself a few years ago. Today it is conducting a low-level campaign against drug dealers, particularly on the Cape Flats.
Thousands queued at Burger King's opening to get their hands on the franchise' s signature meal - The Whopper.
But, as Cape Town mayor Patricia de Lille cut the ribbon to open Burger King's new premises, Pagad said it wanted to meet the officials who had handed the franchise a halal seal of approval.
"We're trying to set up a meeting with the Islamic Council of SA on the financing of this business.
"In this instance, the identification of Adams as a Muslim is clear-cut.
"God forbids him to go near gambling or alcohol and we're holding him accountable to Islamic principles," said Salie.
The Muslim Judicial Council's spokesman on issues of halaal, Ahmed Sedick, said a "fatwa committee" of "five to seven members" was set up to rule on the halaal status of Burger King in relation to Adams.
He said the council had no qualms about Burger King's methods of food preparation because they followed the protocols necessary for them to be declared halal, but Adams's business dealings were problematic for many in the Muslim community.
"Because he's Muslim, [it] changes the emphasis.
"If he were a non-Muslim, it would not have mattered," said Sedick.
Adams's business practices were not condoned by the teachings of Islam, he said.
Adams did not respond to questions from The Times.
SHUCKS!
And I was going to apply for a Burger King franchise!
Instead of waiting in the queue, I thought I'd get in first in Jhb!
Seems it's easier in Dubai?
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The Muslim Judicial Council will hold a "fatwa committee" meeting today in Cape Town to decide if the Burger King outlet in the city should have its halaal certificate revoked.
Last week, People Against Gangsterism and Drugs (Pagad) called for one of Burger King's primary shareholders, Hassen Adams, to be investigated by Muslim organisations because of his involvement in the gaming industry.
There are just over 1.2million Muslims in Cape Town so halaal certification is important for many fast-food businesses in the city.
Burger King opened its first outlet in South Africa, in Cape Town, two weeks ago.
Adams, whose Grand Parade Investments operates the local Burger King franchise, is also one of the BEE shareholders in the Grand West Casino and is a prominent owner of race horses.
Pagad spokesman Abdullah Salie said the organisation had no objections to Burger King's entry into the local market.
"We're simply speaking from an Islamic perspective because the owner is involved in a gambling establishment [Grand West Casino] and it's money that is derived from a business that causes devastation among many families," said Salie.
In the 1990s Pagad became infamous for an urban campaign that at first focused on attacking drug dealers and known gangsters but later allegedly targeted the police and justice system officials.
Most of its leaders who were jailed at that time have since been released from prison and the organisation relaunched itself a few years ago. Today it is conducting a low-level campaign against drug dealers, particularly on the Cape Flats.
Thousands queued at Burger King's opening to get their hands on the franchise' s signature meal - The Whopper.
But, as Cape Town mayor Patricia de Lille cut the ribbon to open Burger King's new premises, Pagad said it wanted to meet the officials who had handed the franchise a halal seal of approval.
"We're trying to set up a meeting with the Islamic Council of SA on the financing of this business.
"In this instance, the identification of Adams as a Muslim is clear-cut.
"God forbids him to go near gambling or alcohol and we're holding him accountable to Islamic principles," said Salie.
The Muslim Judicial Council's spokesman on issues of halaal, Ahmed Sedick, said a "fatwa committee" of "five to seven members" was set up to rule on the halaal status of Burger King in relation to Adams.
He said the council had no qualms about Burger King's methods of food preparation because they followed the protocols necessary for them to be declared halal, but Adams's business dealings were problematic for many in the Muslim community.
"Because he's Muslim, [it] changes the emphasis.
"If he were a non-Muslim, it would not have mattered," said Sedick.
Adams's business practices were not condoned by the teachings of Islam, he said.
Adams did not respond to questions from The Times.
SHUCKS!
And I was going to apply for a Burger King franchise!

Instead of waiting in the queue, I thought I'd get in first in Jhb!
Seems it's easier in Dubai?
:S
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Re: Re: NOT BURGER KING..... ADAMS! EISH!
12 years 2 weeks ago
There is so much infighting between the different Halaal Authorities.
They are competitors in the business of Halaal certification. Basically always trying to discredit each other, MJC vs ICSA in a fight this time but last time it was MJC vs SANHA.
Another example of petty regionalism getting in the way of the greater cause , in this case Islam.
They are competitors in the business of Halaal certification. Basically always trying to discredit each other, MJC vs ICSA in a fight this time but last time it was MJC vs SANHA.
Another example of petty regionalism getting in the way of the greater cause , in this case Islam.
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i am not muslim so please excuse my ignorance. the question i ask is must you be the muslim to get the halaal certificate or is it the process that need to be certified. i note that these people are very judgemental, this is the problem with all society not just muslim. when we die we will only be answerable to god. let us hope he is a forgiving god be cause plenty of people have got it wrong
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You don't need to be Muslim to get Halaal certification.
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so if this is case why are pagad more worry about hassen than the halaal process?
i think the boys want some donation to keep quiet.....
i think the boys want some donation to keep quiet.....
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Very simple solution to all these hypocrytes.....tell them to go and #$%^*^%$$ and then put BACON BURGERS on the BK menu....win win for all.....
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12 years 2 weeks ago
Flash Harry Wrote:
> so if this is case why are pagad more worry about
> hassen than the halaal process?
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> i think the boys want some donation to keep
> quiet.....
Stupid Greek...PAGAD members risk their lives on a daily basis for a very very noble cause...if you have ever lived with gangsters and drugs you won't say that..there are rules to being a Muslim which say that he is not allowed to be involved in certain activities...Umlilo can provide more info.
> so if this is case why are pagad more worry about
> hassen than the halaal process?
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> i think the boys want some donation to keep
> quiet.....
Stupid Greek...PAGAD members risk their lives on a daily basis for a very very noble cause...if you have ever lived with gangsters and drugs you won't say that..there are rules to being a Muslim which say that he is not allowed to be involved in certain activities...Umlilo can provide more info.
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Re: Re: NOT BURGER KING..... ADAMS! EISH!
12 years 2 weeks ago
FC how's your mother? Having the brain dead chils must be very upseting
Now take your head out of your bum and tell me where gansterism and drugs give licence to be god about how a man practice his religion? Stupid dutch man
Now take your head out of your bum and tell me where gansterism and drugs give licence to be god about how a man practice his religion? Stupid dutch man
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Flash Harry Wrote:
> FC how's your mother?
PAGAD is helping many communities throughout SA deal with social ills like gangsterism, alcohol and drugs...drug dealers are not afraid of the law but hate these guys...don't disrespect that.
> FC how's your mother?
PAGAD is helping many communities throughout SA deal with social ills like gangsterism, alcohol and drugs...drug dealers are not afraid of the law but hate these guys...don't disrespect that.
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FC well done to Pagad. Good for them
Now please I ask nice without be funny, what do this have to do with Burger King and Hassen? If BK is the drug den then I under stand.
Now please I ask nice without be funny, what do this have to do with Burger King and Hassen? If BK is the drug den then I under stand.
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Re: Re: NOT BURGER KING..... ADAMS! EISH!
12 years 2 weeks ago
Is MR Adams a practicing Muslim?
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