Arlington 20/9/13

mr hawaii Wrote:

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> shrek Wrote:
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> > One more to add . If Dreambythemaster can
> > reproduce his debut run he must come into the
> > reconing in this race. Was touted as the July
> > winner after that run so at 16/1 could be value
> > here.
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> > I really hope Oscar's, November Rain can do him
> > proud but I wouldn't be at all surprised if the
> > stablemate Icemberg upstaged him today. Coming
> > back to the 1000 meters which he seems better
> > suited to and the weight weight turnaround of
> 6,5
> > kg's taking into account the appy allowance
> must
> > make Icemberg a serious runner.Over the C & D
> he
> > has 9 places from 11 starts. At 8,5/1 a win and
> > especially 17/10 a place must rate as the value
> > bet of the day. As Zietz would say sell your
> house
> > and you can buy 2,7 houses after the race.
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> How does a horse go wrong like that? Surely
> something amiss with this horse -

Tend to agree with Mr H, why would you take it from Mr Laird and give to Mr Smith otherwise? Possibly worth an idiot but poorly drawn and appie up.

On the other hand, totally agree on Icemberg Shrek (with the exception of the word "especially" ) but, why only buy 2.7 houses when you would then be able to afford 11.2? I assume that's just a "not needed thing" and you want to keep a big chunk of cash too? <

Ben H's Colourful Jet in the first, can he or someone else tell me please, does the breeding suggest he will definitely do the distance?

A wee bit rain falling

Englander Wrote:

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> mr hawaii Wrote:
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> > shrek Wrote:
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> > > One more to add . If Dreambythemaster can
> > > reproduce his debut run he must come into the
> > > reconing in this race. Was touted as the July
> > > winner after that run so at 16/1 could be
> value
> > > here.
> > >
> > > I really hope Oscar's, November Rain can do
> him
> > > proud but I wouldn't be at all surprised if
> the
> > > stablemate Icemberg upstaged him today.
> Coming
> > > back to the 1000 meters which he seems better
> > > suited to and the weight weight turnaround of
> > 6,5
> > > kg's taking into account the appy allowance
> > must
> > > make Icemberg a serious runner.Over the C & D
> > he
> > > has 9 places from 11 starts. At 8,5/1 a win
> and
> > > especially 17/10 a place must rate as the
> value
> > > bet of the day. As Zietz would say sell your
> > house
> > > and you can buy 2,7 houses after the race.
> >
> > How does a horse go wrong like that? Surely
> > something amiss with this horse -
>
> Tend to agree with Mr H, why would you take it
> from Mr Laird and give to Mr Smith otherwise?
> Possibly worth an idiot but poorly drawn and appie
> up.
>
> On the other hand, totally agree on Icemberg Shrek
> (with the exception of the word "especially" )
> but, why only buy 2.7 houses when you would then
> be able to afford 11.2? I assume that's just a
> "not needed thing" and you want to keep a big
> chunk of cash too? <
>
> Ben H's Colourful Jet in the first, can he or
> someone else tell me please, does the breeding
> suggest he will definitely do the distance?


Englander please bear in mind that value is what I am about.
And my 123 doesn't mean that is how I feel they would finish.
So for me what wins isn't important
This is as best a time to say so
(tu)
4 places on most races today

Ben-Hur Wrote:

> Englander please bear in mind that value is what I
> am about.
> And my 123 doesn't mean that is how I feel they
> would finish.
> So for me what wins isn't important
> This is as best a time to say so
> (tu)
> 4 places on most races today

Fair enough Ben but, win or place, could you say please if the breeding suggests he will definitely stay? Would be helpful (as I know nothing of these matters lol) as I had another look after your mention of him (and asking of me what I liked) and there are "things" that might make him an attractive option but obviously if he might not do the d then much of those "attractions" become irrelevant

I think Forest Fighter has a big chance today .

Swift Wonder beat him 2 runs back when allowed to dictate by Yeni , but Fourie wasn't riding then and now has some weight turnaround .

Last time out , Forest Fighter was badly hampered at a crucial stage when still running second .

E in my workings she is one that has not been behind any other here
To strengthen that is the fact that GBucks Stage Girl was 4,95 behind
Arlington
Now Stage Girl has the beating of quite a few where she races (she isn't my choice there though)
Whether she sees out the trip is not fir me to judge
That judgement is Bass's make
You like her u put money
You lose you try again

ps she is owned by the Devine's

save for her beating by Daresay behind Luck Lear and her more outward draw Butterfly Child would also be my confident selection
Estrella has the X factor

Blardy hell Ben, just a simple yes or no would have sufficed < I just find it strange that it takes this long for the trainer to try this d if the breeding suggests she should enjoy it. And there are no comments yet on the Bass site. I like the fact she ran well on her only visit to the course, that she has run well at another tight track in Durbanville and that there is a possibility she prefers good ground to that with give. Those last points are pretty irrelevant though if the breeding suggests she is going to need a couple of oxygen tanks for the last 400m. No problem though if you would prefer not to judge, I will do a simple price monitor (tu)

novice Wrote:

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> My selections for today or with my form do not
> touch for today
> Race 1 Daresay pl
> Race 2 A wish right now ew
> Race 3 Kindred spirit pl
> Race 4 Middlesex street pl
> Race 6 Jellaloochee w
> Race 7 Sandy celebre w

im in the exact same boat, so i prefer not to post anything

All of us go through that rough patch but all I do is loose , pour another famouse g and try again. It will come right just have to look at doing thing different, like Zietz say is to get the structure right .

The Bass stable is harder to decipher in PE than Ben Hurs postings

englander one thing amazes me in sa racing if you are putting a horse for a particular distance it should run that distance what they do where i live is they sent the horse on that distance and time it and to be more sure they took a horse along who is well known in that distance and gallop them together so they know for sure what is the capabailty of the horse i dont no how things works in sa how do they do it in sa just on pedigree ?

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