The Vaal Tues 8/10/13

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> > > > Mabuko Spirit is a fair sort but for me its
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> selection, being Great Kali. On the run behind
> Tuesdays Child he holds Go Foxy. Obviously the
> breathing problems Great Kali has is a massive
> concern but for a horse rated at 82 at one stage
> before the adjustments if finding some of his
> better form must be worth a few bob at 28/1.


my one was coming back from s rest though and it appears that San Limites holds them both ???

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> > > > > Mabuko Spirit is a fair sort but for me
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> > > And more of the same in the seventh
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> > selection, being Great Kali. On the run behind
> > Tuesdays Child he holds Go Foxy. Obviously the
> > breathing problems Great Kali has is a massive
> > concern but for a horse rated at 82 at one
> stage
> > before the adjustments if finding some of his
> > better form must be worth a few bob at 28/1.
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> appears that San Limites holds them both ???


3rd run after a rest should have been pretty fit. On what collateral form did you find San Limites holding them?

This is what my computer model has come up with along with suggested bets in red. Interestingly I see it wants to dutch one race today.

Race 1

1 APPLE TART
8 CASH BACK
5 FELAN
7 SWEET HARLEM

Race 2

4 DELICIOUS DAMOWIN (AUS) Bet 1 unit to win and 2 units to place
2 DELAWARE BLUES
6 CRESTA DE TIGRE
1 DA MOONSTA

Race 3

5 INTOXICATION
2 MOVE LIKE JAGGER
1 FIGHTING FORCE
6 BIG LION

Race 4

7 DANISH PASTRY Bet 1 unit to win and 2 units to place
8 LIVE ACTION Bet 1 unit to win and 2 units to place
1 CRITICAL MIND (ARG)
4 MADAM ARABIA

Race 5

1 VIVACIOUS STAR
3 LIZZY GREY
7 JENNY GREEN
6 SHEEN QUEEN

Race 6

8 CYBER SPACE
3 TIMES REMEMBERED
7 CASHA
1 SUMMER ADIEU

Race 7

8 BAH Bet 1 unit to win and 2 units to place
4 MOUNT HILLABY
1 SANS LIMITES
5 GO FOXY

Race 8

5 SHANNON'S BOY
2 BLAZING SUNSET
9 TUESDAYS CHILD
3 EAGLE FACE

Race 9

5 OUR BOY BLAKE
1 DARK AGES
6 HEYWOT
4 GEMS A PLENTY

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Bah has contested Grade 1 Races in his last three runs, Louis Gooseneck has his horses firing and Striker maintains the ride, has to be a runner

only 2mm rain here last night

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> > > > > > In the eight I see only one horse
> > > > > > Mabuko Spirit is a fair sort but for me
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> > > > > > to be all about Maji Moto
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> > > > Must be tunnel vision
> > > > And more of the same in the seventh
> > > > Bank on Go Foxy win
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> > > Against Go Foxy is where I have my Lunatic
> > > selection, being Great Kali. On the run
> behind
> > > Tuesdays Child he holds Go Foxy. Obviously
> the
> > > breathing problems Great Kali has is a
> massive
> > > concern but for a horse rated at 82 at one
> > stage
> > > before the adjustments if finding some of his
> > > better form must be worth a few bob at 28/1.
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> On what collateral form did you find San Limites
> holding them?


Look at the times of those three on the 10th

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> Hi Mr E...............I see in R5 no selection. Do
> you feel the draw has so bais on the 1200m
> straight. Thus Fav should romp home

Completely the opposite BE... I like Viv Star and Jenny Green and they are drawn 1 and 2, I don't see a lot of value in the ones drawn higher so I left the race alone for the purposes of that "fun" (but hopefully very profitable! lol) bet. Those were my selections based only on draw and possible (double figure) value because of that. They are not necessarily the ones that I think will win, let alone win on a level playing field. Example, I like Klondike Creek but drawn low so I didn't even include in my Striker bet.
And just to be sure you are aware... all the races are on the straight today BE. The longer the distance I would say that, logically, the less the potential impact as the jockeys (if they engage brain!!) can perhaps get across to the other side of the course if necessary.

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> > > > > > In the eight I see only one horse
> > > > > > Mabuko Spirit is a fair sort but for me
> > its
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> > > > > > to be all about Maji Moto
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> > > > > You need new glasses - there are 12
> horses
> > in
> > > > that
> > > > > race -
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> > > > Must be tunnel vision
> > > > And more of the same in the seventh
> > > > Bank on Go Foxy win
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> > > Against Go Foxy is where I have my Lunatic
> > > selection, being Great Kali. On the run
> behind
> > > Tuesdays Child he holds Go Foxy. Obviously
> the
> > > breathing problems Great Kali has is a
> massive
> > > concern but for a horse rated at 82 at one
> > stage
> > > before the adjustments if finding some of his
> > > better form must be worth a few bob at 28/1.
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> > my one was coming back from s rest though and
> it
> > appears that San Limites holds them both ???
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> On what collateral form did you find San Limites
> holding them?


This is when they might be right
Today is his third run in my opinion

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Thanks LG for confirming - now please confrim that Bah is a big runner :S

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> Lucky seems to be set for a big day today and is
> definitely the yard to follow starting off in the
> 1st race where the betting suggests a 2 horse race
> between Sarasota and Apple Tart (15/10 and 4/1)
> the form suggests that the latter will battle to
> even place so Sarasota for me is the proverbial
> penalty kick as is Live Action in the 4th who imo
> will win hard held, his runners in the 5th, 6th
> and 8th (better over 1200 though) also have to be
> huge runners, so we gonna be seeing a lot of "El
> Grecko" today...

Hell Titch, u make me doubt my sanity. How can you swy the 'form suggests Apple Tart will battle to place' ??
I made it a good bet at 4/1 and had a decent bet. On LBH apple tart would have finished 3 lengths in front of Sarasota and is now 1 kg better off at the weights. Add to that will strip fitter. .(big worry is 2nd run after rest syndrome) . . .and has a decent groom on top. . . .

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lmao (tu) but from what I have heard in "interviews", Louis has always thought Bah a big runner, even in the Group 1s, but an extra vote of confidence would of course be good... -

When we speak of Go Foxy 's chances you might want to compare Flag Of France's form and see if he was ahead of any here