The Vaal Tues 8/10/13

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> > > > > > > In the eight I see only one horse
> > > > > > > Mabuko Spirit is a fair sort but for
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> > > > > > > to be all about Maji Moto
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> > > > > > You need new glasses - there are 12
> > horses
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> > > > > > race -
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> > > > > Must be tunnel vision
> > > > > And more of the same in the seventh
> > > > > Bank on Go Foxy win
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> > > > Against Go Foxy is where I have my Lunatic
> > > > selection, being Great Kali. On the run
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> > > > Tuesdays Child he holds Go Foxy. Obviously
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> > > > breathing problems Great Kali has is a
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> > > > concern but for a horse rated at 82 at one
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> > > > before the adjustments if finding some of
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> > > > better form must be worth a few bob at
> 28/1.
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> > > my one was coming back from s rest though and
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> > > appears that San Limites holds them both ???
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> > 3rd run after a rest should have been pretty
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> > On what collateral form did you find San
> Limites
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On the times on the 10th you are right he should hold them but the races may have been run differently. To me at 28/1 he still represents value when the other two are much shorter in the betting.

Madji, any tarts a good bet for you boet...

Move like Jagger - first run back from vaccinations, but is working very well at home
She's a Tiger - working well, strong field last time on sand and we try 1200m turf - she must have a chance but there are a few to beat
Bah - will be a top class individual when the penny drops one day. He ran over 1000m on Vaal sand on thursday. We would like a crack at the Graeme Beck (2nd November)with him and this is the only prep we could find to suit him. It is worth noting that Piere called us for the ride. Piere felt that due to his big action he could never be a Greyville or Turf inner sort and best to ignore his last Greyville run. I tell you all of this because I just dont know how to rate him today. His bloodcount was good, this morning.
Posse Posse - first run back from vaccinations. He is no star but is working very well at home, but will need the run just a bit. Not easy to keep condition on, so he is trained with a keen eye and on how he looks and feels each day. He may enjoy running fresh.
Red Bull Kid - nice little horse who is better than his form and working well at home. He was so green first time out that we expect him still to be green today. He also indicates that he could want further next time. He has early speed though and could upset today

The Madji Wrote:

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> > Lucky seems to be set for a big day today and
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> > definitely the yard to follow starting off in
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> > 1st race where the betting suggests a 2 horse
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> > between Sarasota and Apple Tart (15/10 and 4/1)
> > the form suggests that the latter will battle
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> > even place so Sarasota for me is the proverbial
> > penalty kick as is Live Action in the 4th who
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> > will win hard held, his runners in the 5th,
> 6th
> > and 8th (better over 1200 though) also have to
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> > huge runners, so we gonna be seeing a lot of
> "El
> > Grecko" today...
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> Hell Titch, u make me doubt my sanity. How can you
> swy the 'form suggests Apple Tart will battle to
> place' ??
> I made it a good bet at 4/1 and had a decent bet.
> On LBH apple tart would have finished 3 lengths in
> front of Sarasota and is now 1 kg better off at
> the weights. Add to that will strip fitter. .(big
> worry is 2nd run after rest syndrome) . . .and has
> a decent groom on top. . . .


Madji also in the work riders races I prefer to see either Semela or Mosia abourd. So must have a big shout. Will do swingers and exacta's on these two riders. (tu)

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> > Lucky seems to be set for a big day today and
> is
> > definitely the yard to follow starting off in
> the
> > 1st race where the betting suggests a 2 horse
> race
> > between Sarasota and Apple Tart (15/10 and 4/1)
> > the form suggests that the latter will battle
> to
> > even place so Sarasota for me is the proverbial
> > penalty kick as is Live Action in the 4th who
> imo
> > will win hard held, his runners in the 5th,
> 6th
> > and 8th (better over 1200 though) also have to
> be
> > huge runners, so we gonna be seeing a lot of
> "El
> > Grecko" today...
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> Hell Titch, u make me doubt my sanity. How can you
> swy the 'form suggests Apple Tart will battle to
> place' ??
> I made it a good bet at 4/1 and had a decent bet.
> On LBH apple tart would have finished 3 lengths in
> front of Sarasota and is now 1 kg better off at
> the weights. Add to that will strip fitter. .(big
> worry is 2nd run after rest syndrome) . . .and has
> a decent groom on top. . . .

I think Titch has looked at her last run where the first 8 finishers could fit in a Volksie yet there has not been 1 placed horse from 6 starters - Grooms race so anything possible but if the Wiid (that dam was quick) or Zaki horses are average they could win as there are no stars in this field

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> Move like Jagger - first run back from
> vaccinations, but is working very well at home
> She's a Tiger - working well, strong field last
> time on sand and we try 1200m turf - she must have
> a chance but there are a few to beat
> Bah - will be a top class individual when the
> penny drops one day. He ran on over 1000m on Vaal
> sand on thursday. We would like a crack at the
> Graeme Beck (2nd November)with him and this is the
> only prep we could find to suit him. It is worth
> noting that Piere called us for the ride. Piere
> felt that due to his big action he could never be
> a Greyville or Turf inner sort and best to ignore
> his last Greyville run. I tell you all of this
> because I just dont know how to rate him today.
> His bloodcount was good, this morning.
> Posse Posse - first run back from vaccinations. He
> is no star but is working very well at home, but
> will need the run just a bit. Not easy to keep
> condition on, so he is trained with a keen eye and
> on how he looks and feels each day. He may enjoy
> running fresh.
> Red Bull Kid - nice little horse who is better
> than his form and working well at home. He was so
> green first time out that we expect him still to
> be green today. He also indicates that he could
> want further next time. He has early speed though
> and could upset today


Thanks Louis, all the best with your runners today. (tu)

ken niemand Louis nie
vra Lushen

louisg Wrote:

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> Move like Jagger - first run back from
> vaccinations, but is working very well at home
> She's a Tiger - working well, strong field last
> time on sand and we try 1200m turf - she must have
> a chance but there are a few to beat
> Bah - will be a top class individual when the
> penny drops one day. He ran over 1000m on Vaal
> sand on thursday. We would like a crack at the
> Graeme Beck (2nd November)with him and this is the
> only prep we could find to suit him. It is worth
> noting that Piere called us for the ride. Piere
> felt that due to his big action he could never be
> a Greyville or Turf inner sort and best to ignore
> his last Greyville run. I tell you all of this
> because I just dont know how to rate him today.
> His bloodcount was good, this morning.
> Posse Posse - first run back from vaccinations. He
> is no star but is working very well at home, but
> will need the run just a bit. Not easy to keep
> condition on, so he is trained with a keen eye and
> on how he looks and feels each day. He may enjoy
> running fresh.
> Red Bull Kid - nice little horse who is better
> than his form and working well at home. He was so
> green first time out that we expect him still to
> be green today. He also indicates that he could
> want further next time. He has early speed though
> and could upset today


Thanks a lot for the time taken to post your views - appreciated and break a leg with your runners (especially Bah )

good day

WELLESLEY in the 2nd......include in all bets..... just pity about the draw:(.....

louisg Wrote:

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> Move like Jagger - first run back from
> vaccinations, but is working very well at home
> She's a Tiger - working well, strong field last
> time on sand and we try 1200m turf - she must have
> a chance but there are a few to beat
> Bah - will be a top class individual when the
> penny drops one day. He ran over 1000m on Vaal
> sand on thursday. We would like a crack at the
> Graeme Beck (2nd November)with him and this is the
> only prep we could find to suit him. It is worth
> noting that Piere called us for the ride. Piere
> felt that due to his big action he could never be
> a Greyville or Turf inner sort and best to ignore
> his last Greyville run. I tell you all of this
> because I just dont know how to rate him today.
> His bloodcount was good, this morning.
> Posse Posse - first run back from vaccinations. He
> is no star but is working very well at home, but
> will need the run just a bit. Not easy to keep
> condition on, so he is trained with a keen eye and
> on how he looks and feels each day. He may enjoy
> running fresh.
> Red Bull Kid - nice little horse who is better
> than his form and working well at home. He was so
> green first time out that we expect him still to
> be green today. He also indicates that he could
> want further next time. He has early speed though
> and could upset today


Will be shouting for BAH(tu)

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> There are 5 fillies making their debut in race 1,
> a workriders. Some expensive horses. Must say, I
> don't like the idea. Guess it could be OK if the
> riders are their regular pilots at home, but
> still.


Probably to try and run second to qualify for the R250k maiden plates on the 2nd November. <

Casha being backed like the result is already known.