Via africa vs Schiffer

VDR nearly died otherwise it would have been a very different career.

VDR record speaks for itself....2/2 as a 2yo , 3/4 as a 3yo and undefeated as a 4 yo until she broke down and includes the scalp of waw twice...a very hard act to follow...

Titch Wrote:

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> VDR record speaks for itself....2/2 as a 2yo , 3/4
> as a 3yo and undefeated as a 4 yo until she broke
> down and includes the scalp of waw twice...a very
> hard act to follow...

Agree...VDR a top top horse.

One important fact needs to be considered here.
WAW was already a 5yo when he beat VA who was only 3.

VA's record is 1/2 as a 2yo, 5/7 as a 3 yo and 1/1 as a 4yo.
Will be 2/2 on Saturday ( and it's only a prep run). Goosebumps

17/20 on Hollywood Agra, maybe the first race PE for a nice ATC?

VDR-VA-S is a very informed opinion. The best yet.

Craig Eudey Wrote:

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> Neigh they both had problems and big ones. The
> one(from what I am told) with the least is Via
> Africa. As I said, I am not running VA down but
> just be careful. It is not cut and dried. With
> regards WAW, he had won 6/8 when he took on VDR
> the first time and she beat him and the 2nd time
> they met he had won 8/11.He had given her 0.5kgs
> and 2.5kgs and she beat him 1,25 and 0.4 lengths.
> When he beat VA he had won his last 3/8 races and
> then gave her 6kgs and 4.5kgs and beat her 0.75
> and 1.25 lengths. Certainly it would seem to
> indicate that VDR is the best sprinting filly we
> have seen for many years.

Craig, the problem with your weight analysis is that you have ignored WFA. In the Gr1s WAW met both fillies at WFA less their fillies allowance of 2.5kg. Val de Ra's performances thus slightly better than Via Africa, but it is quite possible that Via Africa will also improve at 4. Her 3 yo performances were as good as Val de Ra's at the same age.

will be running around to get 60k on VIA AFRICA and invest the 100k on red ray next week , easiest 100k+ profit you will ever make with 60k

@blouperd u got serious balls punting 60k on a pony most i will ever go is R1000(happened only 2wice in my lifetime)

PeterD, I think that using the exact same races against WAW with the weight for age taken into account, gives us the best possible comparison. Whether VA would improve more than VDR is a factor that we do not know for certain. As I said the rating by the best person to judge goes VDR-VA-S but can VA give S 7kgs? Great race by some really good fillies if we race.

Craig Eudey Wrote:

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> PeterD, I think that using the exact same races
> against WAW with the weight for age taken into
> account, gives us the best possible comparison.
> Whether VA would improve more than VDR is a factor
> that we do not know for certain. As I said the
> rating by the best person to judge goes VDR-VA-S
> but can VA give S 7kgs? Great race by some really
> good fillies if we race.


I see you're very active again, you'll get into kak again. lol

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