Forgive no forget
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Re: Re: Forgive no forget
11 years 6 months ago
Fog, if it was a conspiracy and not a genuine mistake why then would the same people that are now having fingers pointed at them expose their own short fall and not keep quite, we seem to be overlooking the transparency that lead to this mistake being made public knowledge...
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Re: Re: Forgive no forget
11 years 6 months ago
mr hawaii Wrote:
> The trainer is responsible but so too and more
> importantly as the watch dogs of the industry is
> the NHRA - An email to the Racing jurisdiction
> where the horse was domiciled before entering SA
> should be the norm. A "FORM CLEARANCE CERTIFICATE"
> , similar to what we find in Tax Clearance or
> Motor Car License renewal , should be the
> prerequisite before a foreign horse is allowed to
> run here. How do we know a two-year-old is not
> infact a three-year-old unless we check
.....every horse local and imported is registered with the NHRA be it for racing and/or breeding....they release suppliments with information on these registrations.....they should then check the information provided with the registration against what they can get through sound solid fact checking.....this information once checked should be recorded and published correctly.....simple.
FFS I check peds and form on every new horse I see not only here but in most major race juristrictions where I find an interest...this helps me build mental data bases.....Case in point a winner in Moonee Valley today.... Princess Rock a nice nap being a full sibling to Perana and half sibling to the better Prince Of War owned by Bernard Kantor and died before taking up stallion duties here...:
> The trainer is responsible but so too and more
> importantly as the watch dogs of the industry is
> the NHRA - An email to the Racing jurisdiction
> where the horse was domiciled before entering SA
> should be the norm. A "FORM CLEARANCE CERTIFICATE"
> , similar to what we find in Tax Clearance or
> Motor Car License renewal , should be the
> prerequisite before a foreign horse is allowed to
> run here. How do we know a two-year-old is not
> infact a three-year-old unless we check
.....every horse local and imported is registered with the NHRA be it for racing and/or breeding....they release suppliments with information on these registrations.....they should then check the information provided with the registration against what they can get through sound solid fact checking.....this information once checked should be recorded and published correctly.....simple.
FFS I check peds and form on every new horse I see not only here but in most major race juristrictions where I find an interest...this helps me build mental data bases.....Case in point a winner in Moonee Valley today.... Princess Rock a nice nap being a full sibling to Perana and half sibling to the better Prince Of War owned by Bernard Kantor and died before taking up stallion duties here...:

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11 years 6 months ago
How can you think a 5 year old is a 2 year old :S
You will notice I post very little these days - given up taking the P6 etc and will not get involved again as long as this game is being run like Boswell Wilkie - with due respect to the circus owners of course
You will notice I post very little these days - given up taking the P6 etc and will not get involved again as long as this game is being run like Boswell Wilkie - with due respect to the circus owners of course
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Re: Re: Forgive no forget
11 years 6 months ago
colins Wrote:
> How can you think a 5 year old is a 2 year old
> :S
>
> You will notice I post very little these days -
> given up taking the P6 etc and will not get
> involved again as long as this game is being run
> like Boswell Wilkie - with due respect to the
> circus owners of course
The race was made up of 3,4,5 and 6yo fillies/mares no juveniles ran in the race ...
> How can you think a 5 year old is a 2 year old
> :S
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> You will notice I post very little these days -
> given up taking the P6 etc and will not get
> involved again as long as this game is being run
> like Boswell Wilkie - with due respect to the
> circus owners of course
The race was made up of 3,4,5 and 6yo fillies/mares no juveniles ran in the race ...
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Re: Re: Forgive no forget
11 years 6 months ago
Hi everybody,
My first or second time posting here, I cannot remember.
About Forgive No Forget. I imported her from New Zealand because I am planning to breed from her as she has the best blood as far as I know from New Zealand. Darci Brahma is probably the best sire in NZ after Zabeel. Also, in Darci Brahma, you have Zabeel and Danehill, fireworks for sires like Silvano, Judpot, Dynasty etc. I am planning to send all my NZ fillies/mares to SA because SA has such a strong stallion base and mostly I like the people(trainers,jockeys) as to me, I feel they are more honest and straight to the point.
Yes, I know she has won twice but since trying black type, she has disappointed. Maybe MDK will do wonders.
I must say I was surprised that she was entered in a maiden, my first impression was that she is entered for a run as she has been injured and has not run for a long time. Anyway, 1200m is not her distance so I did not take much notice. Just leave it to MDK and sure he will look after the horse.
Oh well, she ran well but I thought it must be SA rules that imports can run in SA maidens. My guess anyway.
I really don't know but I would also like to find out what the rules are as I also have another NZ import with Ormond Ferraris which has won before.
So I would like if anyone know the rules can tell me.
I don't bet when my horses run in SA as that is illegal from Hong Kong and even if I can, I don't know where to bet, assuming that I am not in HK.
P.S Will someone help me turnover my horses, I want to keep the best and anything that is below black type I want to sell. I won't mind taking a hit as that is the way I have to operate and I need to cut down my costs.
Also, I want to know if trainers will want unraced fillies and try them, if they earn stakes money, the trainer can keep it but I do not want to pay the monthly fees, as long as the filly is not black type, in which case I want a share, say 50-50. Does that sound reasonable?
My first or second time posting here, I cannot remember.
About Forgive No Forget. I imported her from New Zealand because I am planning to breed from her as she has the best blood as far as I know from New Zealand. Darci Brahma is probably the best sire in NZ after Zabeel. Also, in Darci Brahma, you have Zabeel and Danehill, fireworks for sires like Silvano, Judpot, Dynasty etc. I am planning to send all my NZ fillies/mares to SA because SA has such a strong stallion base and mostly I like the people(trainers,jockeys) as to me, I feel they are more honest and straight to the point.
Yes, I know she has won twice but since trying black type, she has disappointed. Maybe MDK will do wonders.
I must say I was surprised that she was entered in a maiden, my first impression was that she is entered for a run as she has been injured and has not run for a long time. Anyway, 1200m is not her distance so I did not take much notice. Just leave it to MDK and sure he will look after the horse.
Oh well, she ran well but I thought it must be SA rules that imports can run in SA maidens. My guess anyway.
I really don't know but I would also like to find out what the rules are as I also have another NZ import with Ormond Ferraris which has won before.
So I would like if anyone know the rules can tell me.
I don't bet when my horses run in SA as that is illegal from Hong Kong and even if I can, I don't know where to bet, assuming that I am not in HK.
P.S Will someone help me turnover my horses, I want to keep the best and anything that is below black type I want to sell. I won't mind taking a hit as that is the way I have to operate and I need to cut down my costs.
Also, I want to know if trainers will want unraced fillies and try them, if they earn stakes money, the trainer can keep it but I do not want to pay the monthly fees, as long as the filly is not black type, in which case I want a share, say 50-50. Does that sound reasonable?
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Re: Re: Forgive no forget
11 years 6 months ago
Hey Winston, the South African rules are the same as the rules anywhere else
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Re: Re: Forgive no forget
11 years 6 months ago
So why is she entered in another maiden for Greyville? Can someone please tell me what are the rules for imports?
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Re: Re: Forgive no forget
11 years 6 months ago
Winston Chow Wrote:
> So why is she entered in another maiden for
> Greyville? Can someone please tell me what are
> the rules for imports?
no different from locals - a horse must fulfill the criteria for a race - a winner cannot contest a Maiden -
> So why is she entered in another maiden for
> Greyville? Can someone please tell me what are
> the rules for imports?
no different from locals - a horse must fulfill the criteria for a race - a winner cannot contest a Maiden -
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Re: Re: Forgive no forget
11 years 6 months ago
I just checked with formgrids, enetered for Greyville!
Also, what is the news about The Sheik all about?! I am just so confused?!!!!
Also, what is the news about The Sheik all about?! I am just so confused?!!!!
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Re: Re: Forgive no forget
11 years 6 months ago
Winston Chow Wrote:
> I just checked with formgrids, enetered for
> Greyville!
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> Also, what is the news about The Sheik all about?!
> I am just so confused?!!!!
Maybe call your trainer
> I just checked with formgrids, enetered for
> Greyville!
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> Also, what is the news about The Sheik all about?!
> I am just so confused?!!!!
Maybe call your trainer
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Re: Re: Forgive no forget
11 years 6 months ago
Yup call mdk,infact i`m going to ask him to call you...
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