First timer rule in Jackpot

the rules need to be the same for all win exotic bets such as pick 6 pick 3 jackpot bipot etc..never mind newbies many seasoned punters still don't know them...the problem is today where we have 2 juvenile features and they have first timers in and they form 2 legs of the jackpot ...I would have kept both races out the jackpot so it takes the guess work out for punters playing the jackpot ...they also form the last 2 legs of the bipot so really not much thought put into todays card structure at turfontein ...without barrier trials it makes betting on these exotics almost impossible

Thanks for the info - as pirates points out, this rule becomes especially important today - in the P6 no need to include the de Kock 'hottie' in the 7th - but a possible banker in the Jpot

D - 17 wrote: Sometimes I think you just defending them so maybe just maybe they read this site and offer you a position

Maybe chief spin doctor...

Sad but typical that you believe an opinion would have to have a hidden agenda, however FYI (A) i have no need at my age to start working again and ( B ) The subject matter of this thread is about the first timer rule in the Jackpot which is what I addressed...

Titch I have to say that I don't quite follow your argument - so you are saying that a 'newbie' would perfectly understand the Jpot rule - but would be flabbergasted by the P6 rule? Surely the objective should be that there should be no confusion at all?

Also in the article quoted by Countrymember, it states that couplings still apply in the P6 - now I know that has also been changed subsequently - I'm not sure if that specific issue is displayed in the official racecard and I don't have the energy to check right now

I myself do not have a problem with the different rules for different bets - apart from the fact that this leads to confusion - but these rules should be available to all and sundry and I would have thought the obvious place would be in the 'official' racecard (the Computaform) - seeing that the powers that be change the rules from time to time and clearly has difficulty maintaining their own publications with the current rules

Just listened to Jason Dedekind

Turff race 6; bipot & pa i,2,4,7 P6 i'll just add the 5?

johnnycomelately wrote: Just listened to Jason Dedekind

Turff race 6; bipot & pa i,2,4,7 P6 i'll just add the 5?

Ahh i get it,think he should have said jackpot

So 2 first timers pass the post 1st , 2nd in race 6 pity that P6 ruling does NOT apply to jackpot players.

ElvisisKing wrote: So 2 first timers pass the post 1st , 2nd in race 6 pity that P6 ruling does NOT apply to jackpot players.

and the bipot?maybe take it one step further the pa..its meant to be a game of skill but the operators really need to re look at the current situation..it doesn't affect me as I wont play when this scenario arises but it just turns current punters away and puts future ones off...

Mr Witz,
So why not make the J/pot the first 3 past the post the bipot first 4 and the PA first 5 exclude the 1st timers reinstate the coupling rule in all 3 bet types and if the fav misses a place then the 2nd fav can apply..10c a line and if you miss it one leg then get your stake back...that should stop your bleeting :woohoo:

Titch wrote: Mr Witz,
So why not make the J/pot the first 3 past the post the bipot first 4 and the PA first 5 exclude the 1st timers reinstate the coupling rule in all 3 bet types and if the fav misses a place then the 2nd fav can apply..10c a line and if you miss it one leg then get your stake back...that should stop your bleeting :woohoo:

whatever you say mr croucher or is it mr racing ...some people try find solutions to problems unlike you who pretends there aint any ..maybe read the Phumelela financial results regarding local turnover on racing before you start talking and burying your head in the sand like your heroes..not everyone is like you and has the inside track on every horse in training

another question for mr racing why have the first form horse count in the pick 6 which is merely an extension of the pot but not have it apply in the jackpot?

That was/is my point, you seem to over look the fact that with the introduction of the pick 6 the J/Pot took a back seat so to speak, in order to rejuvenate interest the rules were amended to make it more of a challenge which would equate to bigger payouts and more attractive to punters, if the 1st timer rule and couplings etc were reinstated the payouts would plummet and the bet would die...