#WhoIsJayyed

Frodo wrote:

Press wrote:

mr hawaii wrote: Would rather back Gr 1 winners - FRENCH NAVY, ERTIJAAL and Gr1 placed Deputy Jud than this horse - French Navy is my Pomodoro this year- Look carefully at the Conglomerate's last run - Mac De Lago (tt improved as did a good draw)Rampant Ice and Iluminati finished within a length of each other and all were beaten properly by French Navy. I feel that Jayyed is in this class - If he was as good as people think then De Kock would have won multiple Graded races with him as that is the stable's job. I doubt if that horse could beat Majmu over any distance getting weight. Look further at Amazing Strike who finished .40 behind Jayyed in the KRA - those two HOLD form as they finished a head apart in the Dingaans - French Navy beat both in that race by almost 10 lengths and we know 1800-2200m is his best trip. I think if you wabt to back a 3yr old you must go for a first 5 finisher in the TCrown as history proves they do well in this race - I will not back the Conglomerate either as I do not think he is as good as the Gauteng runners. The 3yr old fillies have a huge chance and 33-1 on Siren's Call is perhaps a more sensible bet than Jayyed.

Mr H, I cant argue with your logic here.

Neither can I, except to point out that French Navy was beaten fair and square by Legal Eagle in the Derby......

mr hawaii wrote: Would rather back Gr 1 winners - FRENCH NAVY, ERTIJAAL and Gr1 placed Deputy Jud than this horse - French Navy is my Pomodoro this year- Look carefully at the Conglomerate's last run - Mac De Lago (tt improved as did a good draw)Rampant Ice and Iluminati finished within a length of each other and all were beaten properly by French Navy. I feel that Jayyed is in this class - If he was as good as people think then De Kock would have won multiple Graded races with him as that is the stable's job. I doubt if that horse could beat Majmu over any distance getting weight. Look further at Amazing Strike who finished .40 behind Jayyed in the KRA - those two HOLD form as they finished a head apart in the Dingaans - French Navy beat both in that race by almost 10 lengths and we know 1800-2200m is his best trip. I think if you wabt to back a 3yr old you must go for a first 5 finisher in the TCrown as history proves they do well in this race - I will not back the Conglomerate either as I do not think he is as good as the Gauteng runners. The 3yr old fillies have a huge chance and 33-1 on Siren's Call is perhaps a more sensible bet than Jayyed.

Magi wrote: Good thread, in my opinion the three yr old fillies better crop than their male counterparts. The 3 yr old colts will be outgunned by the older horses this year. I unhappy Legislate did not get acrun recently, and of course Futura looks the real deal.
Wylie Hall looks a real contender for the July.

Gilz17 wrote: I think the name of this thread is apt, we don't know just how deep the rabbit hole goes.. Quoting Delpech, he said Jayyed was their best 3year old b4 the problem, as I mentioned b4, if u look at ertijaal and majmu then how good is jayyed, sure majmu probably improved since AD's last assessment, though MDK wouldn't throw a maiden in a grade 1 race if he didn't think he was up for it.. Talks of dubai b4 he even won a race, just all shows the expectations around the horse.. 100% sure MDK would have aimed Jayyed at the triple crown If not for the problem and we'd be singing a different tune, either discounting its chances or putting him up there with FN, Ertijaal and LE etc.. The stable back him and there is talks from Matthew of him now "fulfilling his promise", which can either mean Dubai or staying in SA for the july, its all good enough for me to take some of that 100/1 as the Reward slightly outweigh the Risk.. But needs to show it on the track on friday..