Futura: not if the pace is on...

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10 years 2 months ago
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I'm not too sure anybody will 'sacrifice' anything to whoever - it Is the July after all B)

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10 years 2 months ago
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I honestly think wylie hall will go to the front coming into the straight and try an get away but the main threat will be marcus on legal eagle he will try from the inside rail futura as a turn of foot but it may be to late btw guys I new here but been a huge fan

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jeromem wrote: I honestly think wylie hall will go to the front coming into the straight and try an get away but the main threat will be marcus on legal eagle he will try from the inside rail futura as a turn of foot but it may be to late btw guys I new here but been a huge fan

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Almost certain Futura will not be sitting stone cold last turning for home like they did in the Rising Sun.

If mid-field or better turning for home ......... be afraid, very afraid.
Guessing has never been widely acclaimed as a good gambling strategy.
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I remember the GREAT POCKET POWER...winning from any pace...be it fast or even a slow Cape Crawl.People spend too much time trying to find out stuff like the above(which I think is useless to a degree of abt 95%) than the actual studying of the form itself...sometimes doing the basics is the only thing to do(with a tweak here and there of oz) but busting brains over who is setting the pace is a waste of time...simply coz all the trainers/jocks/owners wanna win,so trying to predict who will do what is time wasting,lol...just my 2c and I say this in a sense to try and 'help solve a puzzle that many too often see as unsolvable.
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10 years 2 months ago
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Heinrich who would want to live in a world where everyone thinks alike?

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ColinP wrote: Heinrich who would want to live in a world where everyone thinks alike?

We already DO hence the fact that 95% of all punters are losers.

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heinrich wrote: I remember the GREAT POCKET POWER...winning from any pace...be it fast or even a slow Cape Crawl.People spend too much time trying to find out stuff like the above(which I think is useless to a degree of abt 95%) than the actual studying of the form itself...sometimes doing the basics is the only thing to do(with a tweak here and there of oz) but busting brains over who is setting the pace is a waste of time...simply coz all the trainers/jocks/owners wanna win,so trying to predict who will do what is time wasting,lol...just my 2c and I say this in a sense to try and 'help solve a puzzle that many too often see as unsolvable.

This is taken off the Hong Kong Website

Why are front-runners suitable for slow run races?

Front-runners that can maintain their leading positions in slow pace throughout the race are able to save their energy for a late burst. However, runners that lag behind early have to run even faster than those in front if they want to catch up from the back. It is difficult for late finishers to catch the front-runners if the latter can maintain a high speed in the final stages. For instance, front-runners that finish the final 400 metres in 23.5 seconds can only be caught if late finishers, which are behind by five lengths in the last 400 metres, can finish in 22.5 seconds or less. If the late finishers cannot reach that speed, usually they cannot win.
The Kagoshima Handicap, a 1800-metre Class 2 race, held at Sha Tin on 13 October 2001 best illustrates that front-runners are suitable for slow run races. In this race, Turbojet led and covered the first 1400 metres in as slow as 1.26.3 minutes. However, he finished the final 400 metres in just 22.7 seconds. Luckswell, another usual front-runner, had also taken advantage of the slow pace of the race and took the second place. Very few horses can finish the last 400 metres of a 1800-metre race in less than 22.5 seconds. Therefore Equikit, which caught up from the back, performed brilliantly in that race and took third place, losing by just a head.

Why are late finishers suitable for fast run races?

There is an old Chinese saying: "Running fast can put one at an advantageous position." But this is not so in the racing world. There are limitations to the speed and stamina of racehorses. Thoroughbreds can maintain their highest speed for no more than 400 metres. Those that run too fast in the early stages of a race will burn themselves out. Conversely, those that run slow early on have enough energy to quicken up in the latter part of the race.
The 1600-metre Sha Tin Trophy (G3) held on 21 October 2001 was a good example of how late finishers are suited to fast run races. The time taken to finish the first 1200 metres was 1.10.2 minutes which was 2.3 seconds faster than that of the 1600-metre Yan Chai Trophy (Class 2) just 30 minutes earlier. However, the time taken to finish the last 400 metres of the Sha Tin Trophy was 24 seconds whereas that of the Yan Chai Trophy was only 22.7 seconds. As the pace of the Sha Tin Trophy was fast early on, those racing prominently such as Man Of Honor, Citizen Kane, Red Pepper and Oriental Express became exhausted after entering the straight, and it was the horses that settled off the early speed that had the greater finishing kick and filled the first three places.
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Re: Futura: not if the pace is on...

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More information for the racegoer who wishes to learn about racing (Racing 101). Link to the Hong Kong site.

entertainment.hkjc.com/entertainment/mor...h/racing101.aspx#q14
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Re: Futura: not if the pace is on...

10 years 2 months ago
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heinrich wrote:
ColinP wrote: Heinrich who would want to live in a world where everyone thinks alike?

We already DO hence the fact that 95% of all punters are losers.

Yip, for every 50 or so sheep there is a shepherd .......I would prefer to be a shepherd so I worry when too many people agree with me! :P

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Re: Futura: not if the pace is on...

10 years 2 months ago
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My sixpence: in a slow run race it is he who draws first blood is often the winner. He may or may not be the slow pacemaker. A recent example of this is Telescope's race at Royal Ascot Saturday. The slow pacemaker (name?) put his foot down first once into the straight. He could do that because he was the slow pace.

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Re: Futura: not if the pace is on...

10 years 2 months ago
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it seems as if posters on this site are all in the 5 percent of winners ..iv never read of anyone losing in fact even when they lose they win..

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