wukkin up saftote

the well named FIRST TIMER wukkin up has blown out 587000 OF THE 595000 JACkpot tickets ....you call this a game of skill where you have different rules regarding first timers in the exotics?no barrier trials and zero press releases regarding them and you expect punters to support you...wukkin up boys as plenty more will be leaving this so called game of skill unless you realise WHO PAYS YOUR SALARY COME MONTH END..for the record I didn't take a pot but know plenty who did

My dartboard only has 12 numbers...configured for the poly track...

I'm sweating ...early on

Pirates, it is still a game of skill.

The skill has just moved from what to pick to when not to play.

Stupid, stupid rules that serves no one's interest.

Not only should the first timer rule be universally applied, punters should also get the favourite in exotics if a horse breaks down or are pulled out of the race for whatever reason.

Give every punter a proper run for their money not a hollow feeling with zero chance of a pay off.

LSU wrote: Pirates, it is still a game of skill.

The skill has just moved from what to pick to when not to play.

Stupid, stupid rules that serves no one's interest.

Not only should the first timer rule be universally applied, punters should also get the favourite in exotics if a horse breaks down or are pulled out of the race for whatever reason.

Give every punter a proper run for their money not a hollow feeling with zero chance of a pay off.

cant agree with you regarding getting favourite if horse breaks down that's ridiculous

LSU wrote: Pirates, it is still a game of skill.

The skill has just moved from what to pick to when not to play.

Stupid, stupid rules that serves no one's interest.

Not only should the first timer rule be universally applied, punters should also get the favourite in exotics if a horse breaks down or are pulled out of the race for whatever reason.

Give every punter a proper run for their money not a hollow feeling with zero chance of a pay off.

I cannot agree - if you are betting on a Rugby match and a player is red carded you take your loss as part of the risk - If in F1 you back a driver and the car breaks down or has a stalled start you accept the risk. I do however agree with the different rules for different bets - Keep it simple

Pirates and Mr H, I agree that my comment is probably absurd but the point is that the punter should not be punished to the extent of not having a run for his money.

Your horse gets checked out by the vet before the start and gets scratched, you get the TF, 50m other side of the pens you get nothing, makes no sense.

You talk about a player getting red carded which is like a disqualification in racing, you take your pain and I agree. A player gets injured in the game though, he gets replaced and you at least have a shot.

How could you ever hope to sell anything hinging on such precarious outcomes to any right minded individual that you hope to attract to the game.

LSU wrote: Pirates and Mr H, I agree that my comment is probably absurd but the point is that the punter should not be punished to the extent of not having a run for his money.

Your horse gets checked out by the vet before the start and gets scratched, you get the TF, 50m other side of the pens you get nothing, makes no sense.

You talk about a player getting red carded which is like a disqualification in racing, you take your pain and I agree. A player gets injured in the game though, he gets replaced and you at least have a shot.

How could you ever hope to sell anything hinging on such precarious outcomes to any right minded individual that you hope to attract to the game.

Suggestion to steer clear of hurdles and fences steeplechasing as the danger is in front of the horses and nogt behind.
Also harness racing is notorius for having horses that gallop or refuse to trot behind the tapes and you do your tom in cold blood!!!.

pirates wrote:

LSU wrote: Pirates, it is still a game of skill.

The skill has just moved from what to pick to when not to play.

Stupid, stupid rules that serves no one's interest.

Not only should the first timer rule be universally applied, punters should also get the favourite in exotics if a horse breaks down or are pulled out of the race for whatever reason.

Give every punter a proper run for their money not a hollow feeling with zero chance of a pay off.

cant agree with you regarding getting favourite if horse breaks down that's ridiculous

In S Korea, euthenased horses are declared non-runners. If there is one thing I can change in racing it will be that.

Current rules are simple. 1st Timers has to be picked for JP and in P6 the 1st previously raced horse past the post also qualifies.

The one that should be "Wukkin Up" is the punter thinking he can take a bet knowing the rules & the risk if he does not include the 1st Timer...he has clearly accepted the risk when he left that 1st timer out.

In a race where you have 2 favorites, 1 of them racing from a 17 draw and they have tried to win 5 & 9 times respectively clearly no superstars and you have Wukkin Up ridden by Alec Forbes that already had a winner by then (Bunker Bill) on a decent Trainers horse (Anthony) that has his first horse running for the day of only 2 the other one having no chance and does not even have a jockey declared yet...

No use crying about it when you knew the rules and the risk not picking that 1st timer

it must be the cape doctor this am

The operators are so intent on matching Lotto and Soccer 13 type payouts that they have made the P6 and JP a lottery for punters...

And since all pools are punter contributions, this lottery only serves to move money from the majority to a minority of punters (includes trainers and jockeys) that have more knowledge...

The end result will be that punters will move to the proper lottery (Lotto) where the time investment is minuscule compared to "studying" a racecard for the same or more reward...and coupled with the handicapping anomalies as highlighted in another thread, the slide down the slippery slope is gathering pace...