Future Fixed Odds
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Future Fixed Odds
9 years 10 months ago
Can someone please tell me which online page give Future Fixed Odds for the SA market? , I am interested in the initial opening bets hours before the race. Thanks
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- Bob Brogan
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Re: Future Fixed Odds
9 years 10 months ago
Hi pot luck atm, some bookies are opening on the day of the race
Betting world and Hollywood opened early a couple of times before the others last week but made errors and got smashed
Betxchange opened early for PE yesterday and made a few errors and got smashed..
Suggest bookmarking all the bookie sites and doing a check
Betting world and Hollywood opened early a couple of times before the others last week but made errors and got smashed
Betxchange opened early for PE yesterday and made a few errors and got smashed..
Suggest bookmarking all the bookie sites and doing a check
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- Whiteline Fever
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Re: Future Fixed Odds
9 years 10 months ago - 9 years 10 months ago
yes and there are opportunities to fire at the bookies you think have priced up wrong.
Hollywoodbets opened 5/4 on Emerald Mackay where BW opened 8/10
Hollywoodbets opened 1.67/1 on Elephant Matriarch where BW opened 1/1
Hollywoodbets opened 5/4 on Emerald Mackay where BW opened 8/10
Hollywoodbets opened 1.67/1 on Elephant Matriarch where BW opened 1/1
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Re: Future Fixed Odds
9 years 10 months ago
The South African Bookmakers’ Association blames tight operating ratios for its controversial decision to discontinue ante-post betting on all races except major features, writes Michael Clower on
www.goldcircle.co.za
CEO Sean Coleman said: “It’s a matter of economics. Our margins are tight and we are averaging only ten or 11% gross profit on turnover which is less than half what the Tote gets. Its take-out averages 25%.
“There will still be some bookmakers offering ante-post but as an industry we have taken the view that there will be no more ante-post market – as it has traditionally been called – two days in advance of local meetings.
“But there will continue to be ante-post betting on the big feature race festivals like the July, Met, Summer Cup, Gold Cup, Emerald Cup etc.”
Coleman added that for most races and most bookmakers prices will go up at 10h00 on the day of the race and he maintains that the change will suit the majority of punters.
He explained: “The sharpies and the shrewdies like to get on early but most can’t afford to tie up their money 48 hours in advance. They want to invest and get a return.”
Several of the big firms are taking a slightly different line to the SABA policy change and Betting World, the biggest of them, says that it will price up all races at least 24 hours beforehand. Marshalls already price up the previous afternoon and the company plans to continue with this approach “If the market proves sufficiently settled.”
Hollywood has still to decide on a plan of action – “we are betwixt and between”- but it had its Fairview prices up at 9.00am last Friday and, interestingly, claimed that it was the first of the major players to do so.
Seemingly even the SABA could change its stance if the new policy proves unpopular with punters and they vote with their feet. Coleman said: “This is not cast in stone but rather something we would like to try.”
CEO Sean Coleman said: “It’s a matter of economics. Our margins are tight and we are averaging only ten or 11% gross profit on turnover which is less than half what the Tote gets. Its take-out averages 25%.
“There will still be some bookmakers offering ante-post but as an industry we have taken the view that there will be no more ante-post market – as it has traditionally been called – two days in advance of local meetings.
“But there will continue to be ante-post betting on the big feature race festivals like the July, Met, Summer Cup, Gold Cup, Emerald Cup etc.”
Coleman added that for most races and most bookmakers prices will go up at 10h00 on the day of the race and he maintains that the change will suit the majority of punters.
He explained: “The sharpies and the shrewdies like to get on early but most can’t afford to tie up their money 48 hours in advance. They want to invest and get a return.”
Several of the big firms are taking a slightly different line to the SABA policy change and Betting World, the biggest of them, says that it will price up all races at least 24 hours beforehand. Marshalls already price up the previous afternoon and the company plans to continue with this approach “If the market proves sufficiently settled.”
Hollywood has still to decide on a plan of action – “we are betwixt and between”- but it had its Fairview prices up at 9.00am last Friday and, interestingly, claimed that it was the first of the major players to do so.
Seemingly even the SABA could change its stance if the new policy proves unpopular with punters and they vote with their feet. Coleman said: “This is not cast in stone but rather something we would like to try.”
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Re: Future Fixed Odds
9 years 10 months ago - 9 years 10 months ago
What on earth has the tote takeout got to do with bookmakers pricing up?
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Re: Future Fixed Odds
9 years 10 months ago - 9 years 10 months ago
How can they price up in UK ?
I understand that Ladbroke and others battled in SA but the Odds were done by a few Natal bookies and the averages were disseminated, why can't let's say bettingworld and Hollywood do the same as it's another step back in promoting racing in my opinion and i am in favour of any ante post betting.
An exchange Interbet is designed for this stick the fields up early and let punters and bookies establish the market is liquidity the problem.
I understand that Ladbroke and others battled in SA but the Odds were done by a few Natal bookies and the averages were disseminated, why can't let's say bettingworld and Hollywood do the same as it's another step back in promoting racing in my opinion and i am in favour of any ante post betting.
An exchange Interbet is designed for this stick the fields up early and let punters and bookies establish the market is liquidity the problem.
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Re: Future Fixed Odds
9 years 10 months ago
Dave go check them pricing up in the UK it's only partial the night before , nothing really different to the current way the SA bookies are pricing up
Apart from big race meetings and antepost
Apart from big race meetings and antepost
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Re: Future Fixed Odds
9 years 10 months ago
Bookies have been getting smashed up when they open alone , this is great for the guys that do their own prices and know what to look for but shite for the rest of us
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Re: Future Fixed Odds
9 years 10 months agoWhiteline Fever wrote: yes and there are opportunities to fire at the bookies you think have priced up wrong.
Hollywoodbets opened 5/4 on Emerald Mackay where BW opened 8/10
Hollywoodbets opened 1.67/1 on Elephant Matriarch where BW opened 1/1
Last week when they opened PE they went
13/2 EnRoute returned 2/1?
12/10 Masterley returned 6/10
8/1 the horse that beat LA Rebel returned 9/2
11/4 Rockabella was smashed but beaten
they felt their erses :whistle:
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Re: Future Fixed Odds
9 years 10 months ago
After all the hullabaloo about Timothys tipping someone(s) got smashed yesterday!
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