Should Smith be banned ?

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Hi Bob hope you are well. Hell I don't understand Trainer Smith's case. He gets caught with a Testosterone a Class 1 drug and gets 7.5K fine. Granted it was not found in a horse but it is a Class 1 drug which the NHRA Guidline says is 100k to warning off for a first offense. TWO HORSES of his come back with Carpofen - Class 4 drug and they are treated as one offence for no good reason. The guideline says first offence should be 20-40k so for me that should already be 80k as he did both horses and one even broke down and was only a 2yr old. He gets found with multiple Class 4 drugs and instead of getting 20-40k he gets... 1 k for 7 including LIDOCAINE which is a class 2 (first offence guidline 60-100k)Hydroproxygesterone caproate is also a class 2 and for this he gets 3k. How on earth is this possible considering kept no vet book records so who knows what he was giving his horses. The fines are there but not implemented without any reason given for the leniency. If I were a trainer I would juice my horses after seeing how little bite the nhra have. Also they should have handed him over to the police unless he could prove that a vet gave him those meds as it is a criminal act surely to have scheduled medicine in your possession without it being prescribed by a doctor.

I think its disgusting and damages Racing - This guy should be banned from Racing yesterday!!

I am surprised the Animal Rights Campaigners are not advocating a severe punishment for him

Not only Smith,but ALL trainers found guilty of doping their horses!

www.sportingpost.co.za/2015/11/nha-train...ith-various-charges/

The National Horseracing Authority confirms that an Inquiry was held at its offices at Turffontein Racecourse on Friday, 30 October 2015.

Mr P L Smith was charged with a contravention of Rule 73.2.4 in that a specimen taken from the horse NEW MARKET, after it broke down shortly before the finish line in the 1st race run at the Flamingo Park Racecourse on 27 July 2015, was found to contain the prohibited substance Carprofen, a prohibited substance in terms of Rule 73.4.

Mr Smith pleaded guilty to the charge and was found guilty of the charge.

Mr Smith was further charged with a contravention of Rule 73.2.4 in that a specimen taken from the horse EVERCELL, after it participated in and won the 2nd race run at the Flamingo Park Racecourse on 27 July 2015, was found to contain the prohibited substance Carprofen, a prohibited substance in terms of Rule 73.4.

Mr Smith pleaded guilty to the charge and was found guilty of the charge.

National Horseracing AuthorityAfter considering all the facts relevant to this matter, the Board treated both charges as one and imposed a penalty of a fine of R30 000.

Furthermore, in terms of Rule 72.3.2 EVERCELL is disqualified from the 2nd race run at the Flamingo Park Racecourse on 27 July 2015 and the provisions of Rule 67.7.8 shall apply.

Mr Smith was further charged with a contravention of:
Rule 10.5.16.1:

In that he had on his premises where he trains the following prohibited substances: Carprofen, Flunixin (contained in Finadyne), Procaine (contained in Duplocillin), Prednisolone-21-hemisuccinate (contained in Solu-Delta-Cortef), Dexamethasone, 9-αFluoroprednisolone and Lidocaine. In respect of the said substances found on the premises where he trains, he was in breach of the unless requirements contained in Rule 10.5.16.

Mr Smith pleaded not guilty to the charge, but was found guilty of the charge. The Board imposed a penalty of a fine of R1 000.
Rule 10.5.16.3:

In that he had on the premises where he trains the prohibited substance 17α-Hydroxyprogesterone Caproate and that in respect of the said substance found on the premises where he trains he was in breach of the unless requirements contained in rule 10.5.16.

Mr Smith pleaded not guilty to the charge, but was found guilty of the charge. The Board imposed a penalty of a fine of R3 000.
Rule 10.5.16.5;

In that he had on the premises where he trains the forbidden substance Testosterone Cypionate and that in respect of the said substance found on the premises where he trains he was in breach of the unless requirements contained in rule 10.5.16.

Mr Smith pleaded not guilty to the charge, but was found guilty of the charge. The Board imposed a penalty of a fine of R7 500.
Rule 10.5.16:

In that he had on the premises where he trains two bottles, one containing the prohibited substance Duplocillin (containing Procaine Penicillin G) and the other bottle containing the prohibited substance Finadyne (containing Flunixin), and that neither bottle had a label on it containing the name of the horse to which the said substance is to be administered as required in the unless requirement contained in rule 10.5.16.

Mr Smith pleaded not guilty to the charge, but was found guilty of the charge. The Board imposed a penalty of a fine of R1 000.
Rule 10.5.14:

In that he did not accurately record or cause to be recorded in a treatment register any veterinary treatment to any horses under his care and nor did he have a treatment register on his premises or at all.

Mr Smith pleaded guilty to the charge and was found guilty of the charge. The Board imposed a penalty of a fine of R5 000.

Mr Smith has the right of appeal against the findings and penalties imposed relating to the matters dealt with in paragraph 8.1, 8.2, 8.3 and 8.4 above.

Mr Smith has the right of appeal against the penalty imposed in the matter dealt with in paragraph 8.5 above.

What is extremely worrisome for me is that in this day and age of technology the vet book is not an e book that can be submitted to the NHRA weekly. Surely this is an aspect of Racing that can be prevented by simple logic if you don't want to go electronic- when a trainer gets to the course he should be compelled to produce Vet Book (i do know the passport of the runners have entries on meds if I'm correct but that is only for the runners on the day not the whole yard) - if he is raiding or has horses running in two centres on the same day he can produce a copy of the last two pages. How was this trainer allowed to train without anybody picking up he was not entering into said book or that he even had one. Also I wonder if all the horses in his stable were tested after he was found with these drugs.

Don't even know how this is up for debate, he is a cheat and has no place in horse racing.

18 November 2015

TRAINER P L SMITH FINED

1. An Inquiry was held in the offices of The NHA, at Turffontein Racecourse, on Friday, 30 October 2015.

2. Mr Smith was charged with a contravention of Rule 73.2.4 in that a specimen taken from the horse NEW MARKET, after it broke down shortly before the finish line in the 1st race run at the Flamingo Park Racecourse on 27 July 2015, was found to contain the prohibited substance Carprofen, a prohibited substance in terms of Rule 73.4.

3. Mr Smith pleaded guilty to the charge and was found guilty of the charge.

4. Mr Smith was further charged with a contravention of Rule 73.2.4 in that a specimen taken from the horse EVERCELL, after it participated in and won the 2nd race run at the Flamingo Park Racecourse on 27 July 2015, was found to contain the prohibited substance Carprofen, a prohibited substance in terms of Rule 73.4.

5. Mr Smith pleaded guilty to the charge and was found guilty of the charge.

6. After considering all the facts relevant to this matter, the Board treated both charges as one and imposed a penalty of a fine of R30 000.

7. Furthermore, in terms of Rule 72.3.2 EVERCELL is disqualified from the 2nd race run at the Flamingo Park Racecourse on 27 July 2015 and the provisions of Rule 67.7.8 shall apply.

8. Mr Smith was further charged with a contravention of:

8.1 Rule 10.5.16.1 in that he had on his premises where he trains the following prohibited substances: Carprofen, Flunixin (contained in Finadyne), Procaine (contained in Duplocillin), Prednisolone-21-hemisuccinate (contained in Solu-Delta-Cortef), Dexamethasone, 9-αFluoroprednisolone and Lidocaine. In respect of the said substances found on the premises where he trains, he was in breach of the unless requirements contained in Rule 10.5.16.

Mr Smith pleaded not guilty to the charge, but was found guilty of the charge. The Board imposed a penalty of a fine of R1 000.

8.2 Rule 10.5.16.3 in that he had on the premises where he trains the prohibited substance 17α-Hydroxyprogesterone Caproate and that in respect of the said substance found on the premises where he trains he was in breach of the unless requirements contained in rule 10.5.16.

Mr Smith pleaded not guilty to the charge, but was found guilty of the charge. The Board imposed a penalty of a fine of R3 000.

8.3 Rule 10.5.16.5 in that he had on the premises where he trains the forbidden substance Testosterone Cypionate and that in respect of the said substance found on the premises where he trains he was in breach of the unless requirements contained in rule 10.5.16.

Mr Smith pleaded not guilty to the charge, but was found guilty of the charge. The Board imposed a penalty of a fine of R7 500.

8.4 Rule 10.5.16 in that he had on the premises where he trains two bottles, one containing the prohibited substance Duplocillin (containing Procaine Penicillin G) and the other bottle containing the prohibited substance Finadyne (containing Flunixin), and that neither bottle had a label on it containing the name of the horse to which the said substance is to be administered as required in the unless requirement contained in rule 10.5.16.

Mr Smith pleaded not guilty to the charge, but was found guilty of the charge. The Board imposed a penalty of a fine of R1 000.

8.5. Rule 10.5.14 in that he did not accurately record or cause to be recorded in a treatment register any veterinary treatment to any horses under his care and nor did he have a treatment register on his premises or at all.

Mr Smith pleaded guilty to the charge and was found guilty of the charge. The Board imposed a penalty of a fine of R5 000.

9. Mr Smith has the right of appeal against the findings and penalties imposed relating to the matters dealt with in paragraph 8.1, 8.2, 8.3 and 8.4 above.

10. Mr Smith has the right of appeal against the penalty imposed in the matter dealt with in paragraph 8.5 above.

Gee and I thought SA racing was strictly above board in all aspects :whistle: :silly:

This is the SOLE reason for my lack of profitability this week. Give him the chair I say.

The rule should be; what ever they are unlawfully prepared to give a horse they must be prepared to take themselves. No excuses for doping and the punishment should start with a 1 year ban for a first and only offence thereafter life.

neigh wrote: The rule should be; what ever they are unlawfully prepared to give a horse they must be prepared to take themselves. No excuses for doping and the punishment should start with a 1 year ban for a first and only offence thereafter life.

The guidelines are there but the application, especially in this case, lean towards lieniencey in the extreme. Calculated cheating seems to be tolerated yet any human behaviour(swearing, assault etc), much of which could fall under SA criminal and Civil Law, is punished harshly because it "brings Racing into disrepute". What could bring Racing into more disrepute than trainers (and Jockeys in some cases) cheating? That is the most damaging behavior for any Sport and if animal rights activists decide to protest then what leg do we have to stand on as we should be protecting our horses and not allowing them to run on chemical cocktails that would make Elvis blush. There are many top horsemen in SA and they should put pressure on the NHRA to weed the "chemists" out of the game.

Have the owners of the horses in question left them in his care?

oscar wrote: Have the owners of the horses in question left them in his care?

Maybe they believe he's a Vet as he seems to have a super Medical knowledge